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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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What is the validity of the claim that the supplication (I ask You, O Allah, by the status of so-and-so) is a matter of disagreement among the people of the Sunnah, based on the story of al-Atabi?

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Question:
May Allah reward you, Honorable Shaykh. This questioner says: Some people say that when a person says, "I ask You, O my Lord, by the self of so-and-so, or by his right, or by his status," or similar phrases, that this is a matter of disagreement among the people of the Sunnah. They rely on the story of al-Atabi and attribute this to Ibn Qudamah and Imam Ahmad in one narration. Is this statement correct? And is this disagreement not considered valid?

Answer:
O my brothers, how many times have we said that statements have no standing unless there is evidence for them from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger? The story of al-Atabi is invalid; all of its chains of narration are invalid and it has not been established. It has not been established with a sound chain. Even though Ibn Kathir mentioned it in his tafsir, he did not mention it as an endorsement of it, but rather he merely related it.
Likewise, al-Muqaddim, the author of al-Mughni, mentioned it in al-Mughni. Mere mention does not indicate validity. These are the works of humans, who err and hit the mark. So it is not acceptable to rely on the fact that he mentioned it in al-Mughni, or that it was mentioned in Ibn Kathir's tafsir, or the like. One should not be deceived by it.
If so-and-so says such-and-such, or so-and-so says such-and-such, one should not be deceived by it until there is evidence from the Book and the Sunnah. Otherwise, if we were to follow these things, the truth would be hidden and falsehood would appear in this manner. Yes.
Source قناة «العلامة الدكتور صالح الفوزان»، [292 -858] ما صحة القول: إن دعاء(أسألك يا الله بجاه فلان)مختلف فيها بين أهل السنة بدليل قصة العتبي؟ — youtube.com

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