Women Riding with a Non-Mahram Driver

Question:
Honorable Shaykh, you mentioned in the second point that it is not permissible for a woman to be in seclusion if she is in the presence of a man who is not a mahram to her, and I do not mean a mahram in the sense of being an adult, but rather that I am asked by my relatives to take them to a certain place, and they are women, and sometimes their sons who are around eighty years old come with them. What is the ruling on that? What must I do if they ask me to do that?

Answer:
If it is a group of women, a group of women, there is no seclusion in that, and the distance is short, a group of women, and the distance is short, there is no seclusion in that, there is nothing wrong with it. What is forbidden is for a woman to ride alone with a driver who is not a mahram to her, alone. But if a group of women ride, and the distance is short, then there is nothing wrong with it. One must distinguish between this and that. Yes.