What is the reconciliation between Imam Ahmad’s statement: “Whoever says my utterance of the Qur’an is created is a Jahmi,” and the statement of some scholars of knowledge?
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Question:
May Allah reward you, Your Eminence, father. The questioner asks: How do you reconcile Imam Ahmad’s statement that whoever says the Qur’an is created is a disbeliever, and whoever says my utterance of the Qur’an is created is a Jahmi, with the statement of some scholars of knowledge that my utterance of the Qur’an is created? And is it permissible to say this?
Answer:
This is the issue of the utterance. Imam Ahmad distinguishes. My utterance of the Qur’an—do you mean what is uttered? That is not created; it is the speech of Allah. Or do you mean the utterance that is the sound, your sound of the Qur’an? That is created without doubt. Therefore, the sounds differ; some are good and some are not good, some are a good recitation and some are not a good recitation. If the intention were that all utterance is not created, the utterances and the voices of the reciters would not differ. There is no doubt that the utterance is ambiguous, so it is not permissible to say “my utterance of the Qur’an is created” or to say “my utterance is not created” until you distinguish. You say: Do you mean by the utterance what is uttered?
Then that is not created. Or do you mean by the utterance the sound and the pronunciation? Then that is created. The tongue, the palate, the throat, and the like are created. The instruments of speech are created. Yes. Your speech is created. Your utterance is created.
As for what is uttered, it is not created. Some scholars do not distinguish and say it is not permissible to say “my utterance of the Qur’an is created” absolutely. Some of them say this, but the distinction is better. Yes.
May Allah reward you, Your Eminence, father. The questioner asks: How do you reconcile Imam Ahmad’s statement that whoever says the Qur’an is created is a disbeliever, and whoever says my utterance of the Qur’an is created is a Jahmi, with the statement of some scholars of knowledge that my utterance of the Qur’an is created? And is it permissible to say this?
Answer:
This is the issue of the utterance. Imam Ahmad distinguishes. My utterance of the Qur’an—do you mean what is uttered? That is not created; it is the speech of Allah. Or do you mean the utterance that is the sound, your sound of the Qur’an? That is created without doubt. Therefore, the sounds differ; some are good and some are not good, some are a good recitation and some are not a good recitation. If the intention were that all utterance is not created, the utterances and the voices of the reciters would not differ. There is no doubt that the utterance is ambiguous, so it is not permissible to say “my utterance of the Qur’an is created” or to say “my utterance is not created” until you distinguish. You say: Do you mean by the utterance what is uttered?
Then that is not created. Or do you mean by the utterance the sound and the pronunciation? Then that is created. The tongue, the palate, the throat, and the like are created. The instruments of speech are created. Yes. Your speech is created. Your utterance is created.
As for what is uttered, it is not created. Some scholars do not distinguish and say it is not permissible to say “my utterance of the Qur’an is created” absolutely. Some of them say this, but the distinction is better. Yes.
Source
قناة «العلامة الدكتور صالح الفوزان»، [255 -1024]ما الجمع بين قول الإمام أحمد: من قال لفظي بالقرآن مخلوق فهو جهمي وبين قول بعض أهل العلم.. — youtube.com
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