The ruling on the pledgee benefiting from the pledged item if he takes possession of it while traveling

The questioner : There is a problem, as in the case of travel, for example. Zayd and 'Amr traveled to a specific place, and Zayd borrowed a sum from 'Amr on the condition that he pledge his car.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner : If we stipulate taking possession, and 'Amr takes the car, he benefits from it, and any possession that brings benefit is riba (usury or interest).

The Shaykh : No, no, it does not apply to it; according to the school of thought, the car remains idle.

The questioner : They are traveling together.

The Shaykh : If he fears that the rent will exceed the amount, it remains idle, or it is rented out, and the rent is tied to the loan.