The First of Created Things: The Throne or the Pen
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Question:
Honorable Shaykh, is the Throne the first of creation or the Pen? And how do you reconcile Allah’s saying[Hud 11:7] with the saying of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him): “Except that when Allah created the Pen, He said to it: Write. He said to it: Write.”
Answer:
It is not that the Pen was the first thing Allah created and He was silent; rather, He said, “The first thing Allah created was the Pen, and He said to it: Write.” So the result is that the disagreement has preceded you. Ibn al-Qayyim says in *al-Nuniyyah*: “People differ regarding the Pen with which the decree was written by the Judge: was it before the Throne or after it?” There are two opinions according to Abu ‘Abd al-Hamidan. The truth is that the Throne was before it, because at the time of the writing it had pillars, pointing to the hadith that Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He)Sahih Ibn Hibban 62:1 His Throne was upon the water. Yes, so his saying, “And His Throne was upon the water,” indicates that it was before the writing and before the existence of the Pen. Yes.
Honorable Shaykh, is the Throne the first of creation or the Pen? And how do you reconcile Allah’s saying
and His Throne had been upon water
وَكَانَ عَرْشُهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِAnswer:
It is not that the Pen was the first thing Allah created and He was silent; rather, He said, “The first thing Allah created was the Pen, and He said to it: Write.” So the result is that the disagreement has preceded you. Ibn al-Qayyim says in *al-Nuniyyah*: “People differ regarding the Pen with which the decree was written by the Judge: was it before the Throne or after it?” There are two opinions according to Abu ‘Abd al-Hamidan. The truth is that the Throne was before it, because at the time of the writing it had pillars, pointing to the hadith that Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He)
He decreed the measures of the creatures fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth, and He was
قدر مقادير الخلائق قبل أن يخلق السماوات والأرض بخمسين ألف سنة وكان
Source
قناة «العلامة الدكتور صالح الفوزان»، 24 من 36/شرح العقيدة الواسطية (مع الأسئلة)/القرآن كلام الله/صالح الفوزان/العقيدة/كبار العلماء — youtube.com (56:44)
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