Is it permissible for a woman to ride in a car with a non-mahram driver?

The questioner : What? May Allah have mercy on him. Oh. Seriously. How is that? Let her walk alone. No, it is not necessary for her mahram to pick her up in the town. It is not a problem for a woman to walk alone in the town, there is no harm. But with the driver. Is it permissible for her to ride with the driver alone? How? Yes. What do you say? It is a disaster. Is it permissible or not?

The Shaykh : No, no. Yes, some people say this is not seclusion because the car windows are glass and everyone can see. Yes, and he is in the market, for example, but they say this is one of the greatest forms of seclusion, because if the windows are closed, he does not hear the conversation taking place between them, he does not hear, and also he may talk to her about whatever he wants, then he drives out with her, so the matter is dangerous. Also, things have happened that reach us and we ask about them, very serious things, even from the neighbors, if he takes her in the car, for example, great danger occurs.