What is the validity of the statement that the people of the Sunnah say that the presence of Allah is a real presence, and that the Sufis understood it in a way other than its intended meaning?

Question:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success. What is the ruling on the one who says that the presence of Allah is a real presence, and that the people of the Sunnah did not say that and did not state it explicitly, because the Sufis understood this statement in a way other than the intended meaning.

Answer:
What is the meaning of his saying "real"? Yes, it is real; it is not speculative, it is real. But its meaning is not like the presence of a created being with a created being, where he is mixed with him, next to him, walking with him, and sitting with him. It is not a presence befitting the majesty of Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He). Rather, He is with them and He is above His heavens, in the sense that He encompasses them, He encompasses them, and He hears them and sees them. So He is with them by His knowledge (Glorified and Exalted is He) and His encompassing. Yes.