Is the fluid that comes out of a woman when her husband caresses her considered semen or pre-seminal fluid?

Question:
The questioner says: Honorable Shaykh, a woman says that when her husband caresses her, she feels a fluid coming out of her, and she does not know whether it is semen or pre-seminal fluid. What is the ruling in such a case?

Answer:
If she finds pleasure, if she finds pleasure—both the man and the woman, if they find pleasure from the release of this fluid, then it is major ritual impurity (janabah) and they must perform the full ritual bath (ghusl). But if it comes out without pleasure, it is considered pre-seminal fluid (madhi); they wash it, perform the ablution (wudu'), wash the place of release and clean it, then perform the ablution. Yes.