About an association in Jeddah that handles the burial of the dead for a fee?
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The questioner : May Allah reward you. Honorable Shaykh, this person says: One of the charitable associations in Jeddah has a notable activity in good deeds, and it launched a charitable project it named "The Project of Honoring the Dead." The details of this project include the following: First, when a person dies, they shroud him, prepare him, and bury him. If the deceased's family wants him buried in Jeddah, they pay 750 riyals. If they want him buried in Makkah, they pay 1,500 riyals. If they want him buried in al-Madinah, they pay 1,750 riyals. And if the family wants him buried in Bayt al-Maqdis, they must bury him there. You find the third mosque. This microphone. By Allah, it is a problem. So what is the ruling on this, may Allah grant you success?
The Shaykh : The ruling on this is that it is wrong. Honoring the dead is done by washing him, shrouding him, praying over him, and burying him in the prescribed manner. However, some people do good without consulting the scholars of knowledge. I see that these people must stop proceeding with this project until they ask the scholars of knowledge: Is this permissible?
Or is this a key to extorting people's money? When a person dies, the government, may Allah guide it, has established a branch of the municipal works to handle washing the dead, shrouding them, and burying them. There is no need for us to take 750 or 1,500, or no, 750 and 1,500 and 3,000.
And 1,750 if it is for Makkah or al-Madinah, and 5,000 if it is for Bayt al-Maqdis. Yes, there is no need for this. So I see that this association must, we ask Allah for success for them, not take a single step forward until they present the issue to the scholars of knowledge. If the scholars of knowledge agree to it, and they cannot agree to it, then they proceed on their way. Otherwise, they do not. Similar to this is what was proposed a few years ago to establish a "Palace of Sorrows" just as a "Palace of Celebrations" is established. They said we will establish a Palace of Sorrows, meaning that the grieving people come to this palace to sit in it, and people come to them to grieve with them, just as they come to the Palaces of Celebrations in order to make them happy. That is, some people, may Allah guide them, come with projects that have to do with religion and proceed with them without consulting the scholars of knowledge. The country does not have scholars of knowledge to be consulted in this? And praise be to Allah, the country is not devoid of scholars. So it is obligatory for these people to stop until they ask the scholars of knowledge. They should write to any person they trust from the authorities that have execution power and ask them about it. And I do not see that anyone now helps them in this or spends money on them. Rather, he says: Honoring my dead is that I wash him, shroud him, pray over him, and bury him in his country.
The Shaykh : The ruling on this is that it is wrong. Honoring the dead is done by washing him, shrouding him, praying over him, and burying him in the prescribed manner. However, some people do good without consulting the scholars of knowledge. I see that these people must stop proceeding with this project until they ask the scholars of knowledge: Is this permissible?
Or is this a key to extorting people's money? When a person dies, the government, may Allah guide it, has established a branch of the municipal works to handle washing the dead, shrouding them, and burying them. There is no need for us to take 750 or 1,500, or no, 750 and 1,500 and 3,000.
And 1,750 if it is for Makkah or al-Madinah, and 5,000 if it is for Bayt al-Maqdis. Yes, there is no need for this. So I see that this association must, we ask Allah for success for them, not take a single step forward until they present the issue to the scholars of knowledge. If the scholars of knowledge agree to it, and they cannot agree to it, then they proceed on their way. Otherwise, they do not. Similar to this is what was proposed a few years ago to establish a "Palace of Sorrows" just as a "Palace of Celebrations" is established. They said we will establish a Palace of Sorrows, meaning that the grieving people come to this palace to sit in it, and people come to them to grieve with them, just as they come to the Palaces of Celebrations in order to make them happy. That is, some people, may Allah guide them, come with projects that have to do with religion and proceed with them without consulting the scholars of knowledge. The country does not have scholars of knowledge to be consulted in this? And praise be to Allah, the country is not devoid of scholars. So it is obligatory for these people to stop until they ask the scholars of knowledge. They should write to any person they trust from the authorities that have execution power and ask them about it. And I do not see that anyone now helps them in this or spends money on them. Rather, he says: Honoring my dead is that I wash him, shroud him, pray over him, and bury him in his country.
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