Does camel meat broth invalidate the ablution, and what is the ruling if it contains small pieces of meat?

The questioner : Yes, indeed. Regarding the broth, there are two views.

The Shaykh : One view holds that the ablution is obligatory, and the other view holds that it is not obligatory. The correct view is that it is not obligatory, because it is not accurate to say that one who drank the broth ate the meat.

The questioner : It is in the water. Yes.

The Shaykh : It is true that its taste is in the water, but we adhere to the text. Therefore, those who said that the ablution is obligatory said that the meaning of meat is present in the broth.

The questioner : He healed it.

The Shaykh : Yes, Muhammad.

The questioner : There are often pieces of carved meat in the broth.

The Shaykh : No, if there are pieces of meat in it, it invalidates the ablution. If there are pieces of meat in it, it invalidates the ablution in all cases, because he ate meat.

The questioner : What is meant by interpretation? For example, if there is a piece in it that has the trace of meat, meaning, Shaykh?

The Shaykh : The chain is broken.

The questioner : Pieces of meat are heavy.

The Shaykh : Yes, this is eating meat.

The questioner : No, but it is a small amount, not pieces.

The Shaykh : Yes, ground up. The taste, yes, the taste does not harm. The issue is what has taste. As for what is ground up, or sometimes you see in the broth something like herbs, this is broken off because it is meat.

The questioner : Shaykh, sometimes it settles at the bottom of the container. This is a heavy thing that settles at the bottom of the container.

The Shaykh : This invalidates it.

The questioner : But it is just the broth itself.

The Shaykh : Yes.