Is it permissible for horse racers to provide the stake themselves?
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The questioner : The ready-made gambling, for example, where the racers compete on a horse or on something else, is permissible, meaning the stake must come from another person, right?
The Shaykh : If it comes from another person, it is not a stake, my sir; it is a prize. For example, if a third person says, "Whoever wins the race among you gets so much and so much," that is a prize.
The questioner : Does he not work with this? No, no.
The Shaykh : It is from both parties, meaning each one puts in one hundred, and says, "Whoever wins among us takes the two hundred."
The questioner : Very well.
The Shaykh : No, if it is from another person, and you give it to them now? What would it be? It would be a prize. I saw two people racing, and I said, "Go ahead, whoever wins among you, I will give him one hundred riyals." That is a prize from me; it does not enter into the stake of this gambling.
The questioner : But if it is from them, here.
The Shaykh : This is what the Lawgiver excluded, if it is from them.
The Shaykh : If it comes from another person, it is not a stake, my sir; it is a prize. For example, if a third person says, "Whoever wins the race among you gets so much and so much," that is a prize.
The questioner : Does he not work with this? No, no.
The Shaykh : It is from both parties, meaning each one puts in one hundred, and says, "Whoever wins among us takes the two hundred."
The questioner : Very well.
The Shaykh : No, if it is from another person, and you give it to them now? What would it be? It would be a prize. I saw two people racing, and I said, "Go ahead, whoever wins among you, I will give him one hundred riyals." That is a prize from me; it does not enter into the stake of this gambling.
The questioner : But if it is from them, here.
The Shaykh : This is what the Lawgiver excluded, if it is from them.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 2892 - 4600 هل يجوز للمتسابقين على الفرس أن يكون العوض منهما؟ ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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