Ibn Taymiyyah mentioned that asking a deceased person to make du'a for you is a bid'ah (religious innovation)!!?
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The questioner:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him), as stated in his Majmu' al-Fatawa, mentioned that asking a deceased person to ask Allah to make du'a for you is a bid'ah (religious innovation). Is it the same issue?
The Shaykh:
This is a bid'ah of shirk (associating partners with Allah). It is a bid'ah, but it is a bid'ah of shirk. Do you understand that it is a bid'ah? Meaning, it is merely forbidden? No, it is a bid'ah of shirk. Shirk is called a bid'ah. Yes.
The questioner:
We ask: Is it the same issue that Your Eminence pointed out at the beginning of the lesson?
The Shaykh:
Yes, I pointed out the understanding of what I pointed out regarding the Shaykh's words. I pointed out the understanding of this transmitter. The Shaykh said here, "This is a bid'ah." He did not say, "This is a bid'ah," and remain silent, or say, "This is a bid'ah of shirk." This was the intent. Yes, just like his words here. His words here are explicit. So why does he take his general words there and leave his explicit words here? Yes.
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him), as stated in his Majmu' al-Fatawa, mentioned that asking a deceased person to ask Allah to make du'a for you is a bid'ah (religious innovation). Is it the same issue?
The Shaykh:
This is a bid'ah of shirk (associating partners with Allah). It is a bid'ah, but it is a bid'ah of shirk. Do you understand that it is a bid'ah? Meaning, it is merely forbidden? No, it is a bid'ah of shirk. Shirk is called a bid'ah. Yes.
The questioner:
We ask: Is it the same issue that Your Eminence pointed out at the beginning of the lesson?
The Shaykh:
Yes, I pointed out the understanding of what I pointed out regarding the Shaykh's words. I pointed out the understanding of this transmitter. The Shaykh said here, "This is a bid'ah." He did not say, "This is a bid'ah," and remain silent, or say, "This is a bid'ah of shirk." This was the intent. Yes, just like his words here. His words here are explicit. So why does he take his general words there and leave his explicit words here? Yes.
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