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Exaggeration in Dhikr and Supplications?

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The questioner : Honorable Shaykh, here is a questioner who says: As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. After that, what is the ruling on saying this supplication, and is it reported or not? "There is no god but Allah, as many as the times the sun has risen upon, and the Throne has stood, and the camels have spread out, and the number..."

The Shaykh : ...and the number of the dinars and the dirhams.

The questioner : Write "tarsh," "tarsh."

The Shaykh : You have finished the verse.

The questioner : "The camels have spread out." "The camels have spread out."

The Shaykh : "Tarsh" means camels. Yes, indeed. Apparently, this is what he intends. Yes.

The questioner : ...and the number of the five prayers, and the number of the Qur'an from verse to letter. So, may Allah reward you with good?

The Shaykh : All of this is from excessive elaboration. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Glory be to Allah, and I begin with praise of Him to the number of His creaturesسبحان الله وبحمده عدد خلقه
Sunan Abi Dawud 1503Sahih (Al-Albani)
. "Subhan Allah wa bihamdih" is the satisfaction of His Self, "Subhan Allah wa bihamdih" is the adornment of His Throne, and "Subhan Allah wa bihamdih" is the ink of His words. So, stick to what is reported, and leave these composed rhymes that may carry an incorrect meaning. For example, some people say: "O Allah, I do not ask You to change the decree, but I ask You for gentleness in it." This is a reprehensible supplication. It is as if you are saying: "O Lord, do what You will, punish me, and strike me with misery and hardship, but be gentle." Does the supplicant want this? The supplicant wants to be struck by nothing. He asks Allah the Exalted to protect him from calamity, from illness, from poverty, and the like. So, if you want to supplicate to Allah, say: "O Allah, I ask You to decree good for me," and the like.
Source قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، لقاء[44 من 46] التنطع في الأذكار والأدعية؟!! الشيخ ابن عثيمين - مشروع كبار العلماء — youtube.com

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