The ruling on applying the term "secularist" to one who has shown leniency

Question:
May Allah reward you. Honorable Shaykh, a questioner says: What is the ruling on applying this word, "secularist," to anyone who has shown leniency or from whom Western ideas have emerged? He says, may Allah keep you safe, what is the ruling on applying this word, "secularist," to anyone who…

Answer:
Yes, to anyone who has shown leniency or from whom Western ideas have emerged. And is secularism disbelief? Yes, secularism is disbelief. And secularism, they say here, is separating religion from the state. Separating religion from the state. They say religion is only in the mosques, while in transactions and in governance, religion has no role. This is secularism: separating religion from the state. So the one who holds this belief commits hypocrisy. The one who believes that religion has no role in transactions, no role in governance, and no role in politics, but is confined only to the mosques and only to worship, this is undoubtedly hypocrisy and affiliation [with it]. But as for a person who commits some errors but does not hold this belief, he is considered a sinner, not a secularist. He is considered among the sinners.