Do we declare Ibn 'Arabi and al-Nasiri to be disbelievers?

Question:
He says: Some people say, "We do not declare anyone a disbeliever, no matter what they do, until the proof is established against them." And he said, "We do not declare Ibn 'Arabi and al-Busiri to be disbelievers, because we do not know whether the proof was established against them or not."

Answer:
No, my brother, it is not like that. We do not declare them disbelievers because we do not know whether they repented before death or not. No one has said that the proof was not established against them. Ibn 'Arabi is considered one of the scholars, and you say, meaning, the proof is established against him, and he is a scholar, but we do not know about the ending. My brother, distinguish between this and saying, "We do not know about his ending." Yes.