The Difference Between Blameworthy Ta'wil and Tafsir

Question:
May Allah reward you, Honorable Shaykh. This questioner says: You said, Shaykh, that blameworthy ta'wil (figurative interpretation) is diverting the wording from its apparent meaning, which is the stronger position, to the weaker meaning, with evidence indicating that. Is not the hidden ta'wil that which has no evidence indicating that, but rather contains evidence indicating something else?

Answer:
This is what we said. We said it without evidence. The blameworthy type is diverting the wording from the apparent possibility to the weaker possibility without evidence. As for when there is evidence, this is called tafsir (exegesis), not ta'wil. The wording may indicate several meanings, some more apparent than others, but if evidence indicates that the intended meaning is the non-apparent one, or if it relies on evidence, this is called tafsir of the wording, not ta'wil. The false ta'wil is that which is without evidence. Yes.