The Ruling on Treating Sorcery with Sorcery
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Question:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, what is the ruling on treating sorcery with sorcery?
Answer:
Yes. And is there a position in the Hanbali school regarding the permissibility of this, given that some students of knowledge consider it permissible in this time?
This is not permissible; treating sorcery with sorcery is not permissible. We passed through the chapter on the *nashrah* (exorcism) and the detailed explanation of Imam Ibn al-Qayyim. Al-Hasan said: "No one can undo sorcery except the sorcerer." Imam Ibn al-Qayyim said that the *nashrah* is of two types. The first type is undoing sorcery with sorcery like it, and this is what is not permissible, and he must uphold the statement of Al-Hasan. The second type is treatment with permissible medicines and supplications, and there is no harm in this, using permissible medicines, supplications, and the Qur'an. So the fact that some Hanbalis permitted this is a matter of independent legal reasoning (ijtihad) that is subject to scrutiny, because independent legal reasoning can be wrong or right. Even if some Hanbalis or others said it, the criterion is what the evidence has established. The evidence has established the prohibition of using sorcery, learning sorcery, teaching it, treating with it, or anything else of that sort.
He says: Honorable Shaykh, what is the ruling on treating sorcery with sorcery?
Answer:
Yes. And is there a position in the Hanbali school regarding the permissibility of this, given that some students of knowledge consider it permissible in this time?
This is not permissible; treating sorcery with sorcery is not permissible. We passed through the chapter on the *nashrah* (exorcism) and the detailed explanation of Imam Ibn al-Qayyim. Al-Hasan said: "No one can undo sorcery except the sorcerer." Imam Ibn al-Qayyim said that the *nashrah* is of two types. The first type is undoing sorcery with sorcery like it, and this is what is not permissible, and he must uphold the statement of Al-Hasan. The second type is treatment with permissible medicines and supplications, and there is no harm in this, using permissible medicines, supplications, and the Qur'an. So the fact that some Hanbalis permitted this is a matter of independent legal reasoning (ijtihad) that is subject to scrutiny, because independent legal reasoning can be wrong or right. Even if some Hanbalis or others said it, the criterion is what the evidence has established. The evidence has established the prohibition of using sorcery, learning sorcery, teaching it, treating with it, or anything else of that sort.
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