Which was created first, the Throne or the Pen?
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Question:
Honorable Shaykh, was the Throne the first of creation or the Pen? And who combined the statement of Allah the Exalted regarding the Throne with the statement of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that if Allah had created creation...
Answer:
He said to it, "Write." It said, "What shall I write?" He said, "Write." So the first thing Allah created was the Pen, and He smiled. Rather, He said the first thing Allah created was the Pen. He said to it, "Write." So the result is that the disagreement has preceded you.
And Ibn al-Qayyim says in al-Nuniyyah: People differ regarding the Pen with which the decree was written by the Judge. Was it before the Throne, or after it, or... according to Abu al-‘Ala al-Hamadan?
The truth is that the Throne existed before, because at the time of the writing, it had pillars. This refers to the hadith that Allah decreed the destinies of the creatures fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth[Hud 11:7]. And so on. His statement, "And His Throne was over the water," indicates that this was before the writing and before the existence of the Pen. Yes.
Honorable Shaykh, was the Throne the first of creation or the Pen? And who combined the statement of Allah the Exalted regarding the Throne with the statement of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that if Allah had created creation...
Answer:
He said to it, "Write." It said, "What shall I write?" He said, "Write." So the first thing Allah created was the Pen, and He smiled. Rather, He said the first thing Allah created was the Pen. He said to it, "Write." So the result is that the disagreement has preceded you.
And Ibn al-Qayyim says in al-Nuniyyah: People differ regarding the Pen with which the decree was written by the Judge. Was it before the Throne, or after it, or... according to Abu al-‘Ala al-Hamadan?
The truth is that the Throne existed before, because at the time of the writing, it had pillars. This refers to the hadith that Allah decreed the destinies of the creatures fifty thousand years before He created the heavens and the earth
in six days - and His Throne had been upon water
سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ وَكَانَ عَرْشُهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ
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