Praying behind the imam of 'Isha' for one who has not prayed Maghrib
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The questioner:
Perhaps you would be generous with your brothers regarding this.
The Shaykh:
You hear the voice. Yes.
The questioner:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings. To proceed: We are three men who were traveling. When the time for 'Isha' prayer came, we passed by one of the mosques where they were praying 'Isha', and we had not yet prayed Maghrib. One of us entered with the imam intending to pray Maghrib, said the closing salam in the third rak'ah, and completed a fourth rak'ah with the imam. Another entered with the imam intending to pray 'Isha', then prayed Maghrib and 'Isha' again afterwards. And another entered with the imam intending to pray Maghrib, sat in the third rak'ah, and waited for the imam until he said the salam, then said the salam with him. Please advise us, may Allah reward you, on the ruling in these matters, and what is required of each of us? May Allah the Exalted reward you with good for us?
The Shaykh:
If one comes and the imam is praying 'Isha' and he has not prayed Maghrib, and he prays 'Isha' with him, then prays Maghrib and 'Isha' afterwards, there is no harm. Then, praying 'Isha' with him is a voluntary prayer, and then he prays Maghrib and 'Isha', and there is no harm. This is from the words of the scholars. And whoever prays Maghrib with them, sits in the third rak'ah, and says the salam with the imam, there is no blame on him for all of this. As for the one who said the salam before the imam, he has left what is best, and there is no blame on him, if Allah wills. But if he had been patient until he completed it with him, then prayed 'Isha' afterwards, that would have been better. If he had been patient, so that when his imam said the salam, he said the salam with him, then prayed 'Isha' afterwards, that would have been the obligatory thing and what is recommended. He does not say the salam; he remains sitting until the imam completes the fourth rak'ah, then he says the salam with him. As for what is best, it is that he prays 'Isha' with them as a voluntary prayer, then prays Maghrib alone, and 'Isha' alone afterwards; because this involves exiting the disagreement of the scholars who say that the validity of praying Maghrib behind the 'Isha' imam is not established. We ask Allah for success for all in guidance. Yes.
Perhaps you would be generous with your brothers regarding this.
The Shaykh:
You hear the voice. Yes.
The questioner:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings. To proceed: We are three men who were traveling. When the time for 'Isha' prayer came, we passed by one of the mosques where they were praying 'Isha', and we had not yet prayed Maghrib. One of us entered with the imam intending to pray Maghrib, said the closing salam in the third rak'ah, and completed a fourth rak'ah with the imam. Another entered with the imam intending to pray 'Isha', then prayed Maghrib and 'Isha' again afterwards. And another entered with the imam intending to pray Maghrib, sat in the third rak'ah, and waited for the imam until he said the salam, then said the salam with him. Please advise us, may Allah reward you, on the ruling in these matters, and what is required of each of us? May Allah the Exalted reward you with good for us?
The Shaykh:
If one comes and the imam is praying 'Isha' and he has not prayed Maghrib, and he prays 'Isha' with him, then prays Maghrib and 'Isha' afterwards, there is no harm. Then, praying 'Isha' with him is a voluntary prayer, and then he prays Maghrib and 'Isha', and there is no harm. This is from the words of the scholars. And whoever prays Maghrib with them, sits in the third rak'ah, and says the salam with the imam, there is no blame on him for all of this. As for the one who said the salam before the imam, he has left what is best, and there is no blame on him, if Allah wills. But if he had been patient until he completed it with him, then prayed 'Isha' afterwards, that would have been better. If he had been patient, so that when his imam said the salam, he said the salam with him, then prayed 'Isha' afterwards, that would have been the obligatory thing and what is recommended. He does not say the salam; he remains sitting until the imam completes the fourth rak'ah, then he says the salam with him. As for what is best, it is that he prays 'Isha' with them as a voluntary prayer, then prays Maghrib alone, and 'Isha' alone afterwards; because this involves exiting the disagreement of the scholars who say that the validity of praying Maghrib behind the 'Isha' imam is not established. We ask Allah for success for all in guidance. Yes.
Source
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