Reviewing the tracing of the hadith regarding the establishment of one of the hudud (fixed Qur'anic punishments) of Allah
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The questioner:
He says: The hadith regarding the establishment of one of the hudud of Allah the Exalted is better than rain for forty nights in the lands of Allah. He mentioned it from Ibn 'Umar, and it is weak. *Fayd al-Qadir*, commentary on *al-Jami' al-Saghir*. The establishmentMusnad Ahmad 156Da'if because of the weakness of Ali bin Zaid bin Jud'an (Darussalam) is better than rain for forty nights in the lands of Allah, from Ibn 'Umar, weak. He says: Ibn 'Umar, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
I do not know my lineage. No, no.
The questioner:
*Fayd al-Qadiyyah*, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
Yes.
The questioner:
It is not needed, it is not needed.
The Shaykh:
Al-Bayhaqi.
The questioner:
The apparent [view] of al-Bayhaqi. We, we.
The Shaykh:
One must review the chains of narration, or what was left is not sufficient. Review the principles you have extracted, but this is not sufficient. However, this is a benefit, or a benefit from the ignorant, or this benefit, but one should review others. *Kashf al-Khafa'*—do you have *Kashf al-Khafa'*, yes. Review it in *Sabil al-Ghura'*, *Jami' al-Usul*, *Jami' al-Usul*.
The questioner:
He says: In the hadith from Ibn 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
The Shaykh:
Gone. A fabricated book. A fabricated book.
The questioner:
More than you, he says: From Ibn 'Umar ibn al-Khattab, and in it is Sa'id ibn Sinan al-Himshi, and they weakened him, yes? Sa'id ibn Sinan al-Himshi, they weakened him. And al-Bukhari said: The hadith is denounced. And he cited in *al-Mizan* from its denunciations this report. And the apparent practice of the author is that Ibn Majah al-Qazwini uniquely extracted it among the six, and the matter is contrary to that. For al-Nasa'i narrated it from Jarir, elevated to the Prophet, with the wording "thirty," and Ibn Hibban narrated it with the wording "forty." End.
The Shaykh:
O, revealing five.
The questioner:
If Allah wills. It went, other than the opinion. May Allah reward you with the best reward, and may He bless your knowledge and your sister.
He says: The hadith regarding the establishment of one of the hudud of Allah the Exalted is better than rain for forty nights in the lands of Allah. He mentioned it from Ibn 'Umar, and it is weak. *Fayd al-Qadir*, commentary on *al-Jami' al-Saghir*. The establishment
one of the hadd punishments of Allah
حد من حدود الله تعالىThe Shaykh:
I do not know my lineage. No, no.
The questioner:
*Fayd al-Qadiyyah*, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
Yes.
The questioner:
It is not needed, it is not needed.
The Shaykh:
Al-Bayhaqi.
The questioner:
The apparent [view] of al-Bayhaqi. We, we.
The Shaykh:
One must review the chains of narration, or what was left is not sufficient. Review the principles you have extracted, but this is not sufficient. However, this is a benefit, or a benefit from the ignorant, or this benefit, but one should review others. *Kashf al-Khafa'*—do you have *Kashf al-Khafa'*, yes. Review it in *Sabil al-Ghura'*, *Jami' al-Usul*, *Jami' al-Usul*.
The questioner:
He says: In the hadith from Ibn 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
The Shaykh:
Gone. A fabricated book. A fabricated book.
The questioner:
More than you, he says: From Ibn 'Umar ibn al-Khattab, and in it is Sa'id ibn Sinan al-Himshi, and they weakened him, yes? Sa'id ibn Sinan al-Himshi, they weakened him. And al-Bukhari said: The hadith is denounced. And he cited in *al-Mizan* from its denunciations this report. And the apparent practice of the author is that Ibn Majah al-Qazwini uniquely extracted it among the six, and the matter is contrary to that. For al-Nasa'i narrated it from Jarir, elevated to the Prophet, with the wording "thirty," and Ibn Hibban narrated it with the wording "forty." End.
The Shaykh:
O, revealing five.
The questioner:
If Allah wills. It went, other than the opinion. May Allah reward you with the best reward, and may He bless your knowledge and your sister.
Source
لقاءات لابن باز - جلسة مع الدعاة - ابن باز — archive.org (40:22)
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