Touching the 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered) and looking at it between spouses and children

Question:
Is the 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered) between spouses or for young children?

Answer:
Touching the 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered) and looking at it between spouses is without blame. Allah has permitted gathering, and intercourse is greater than that. So, touching his wife's 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered) or her touching his is without harm. Likewise, looking at her private parts and his private parts is without blame and without harm, because she is lawful to him and he is lawful to her. Likewise, the small child when washing him from impurities and the like, and when playing with him, there is no blame in that. The small child for whom desire does not stir and from whom fitnah (trial, discord or temptation) is not feared, this is what is excused. As for the one from whom it is feared, like a child older than that, five or six years old, then scrupulousness is to leave that. If he reaches seven, it is forbidden to touch his 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered) or play with his 'awrah (part of the body that must be covered). But if he is small, like a two-year-old or a one-year-old and months, then it does not harm. And what is above that, there is no harm in his mother or father washing him if impurities fall on him. For two years and around that is what is excused, and desire does not stir for him. But if he grows up and becomes older than that, then the view is to leave that, and to order him to wash himself until he comes after that.

The presenter:
Yes, may Allah bless you,