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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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The ruling on one who declares the community and the mosques to be disbelievers

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The questioner: And five hundred dinars, I want to profit two hundred dinars. He increased the amount by five hundred dinars, and this is a payment to him of two thousand and seven hundred dinars, on the basis that it is… for two thousand and five hundred dinars, and originally for two thousand dinars.

The Shaykh : I mean, like this.

The questioner : So what is the ruling on this excess amount, or the ruling on the total amount?

The Shaykh : It is an amount he acquired through haram (forbidden) means. The ruling is that he acquired it through haram (forbidden) means.

The questioner: Is the full amount, or just the excess amount?

The Shaykh: No, the excess in which he lied. The one in which he lied, that is settled? And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. Please, go ahead.

The questioner: Islam in a man who has declared the entire community to be disbelievers. And then he has made the abode of Islam now an abode of disbelief, so it is not permissible to show loyalty to them, nor to be brothers with them, and so on. And he has made the mosques now mosques of disbelief, so prayer is not permissible in them, meaning congregational prayer is not permissible in them. And then he does not pray in the mosque, but prays in the house on the excuse that the ruling of Allah is not preferred, and that people now do not know the meaning of "La ilaha illa Allah," even if they say it. Just as he does not trust the scholars, the scholars of the world, from the contemporary scholars, just as he does not trust the knowledge of any scholar from the contemporary scholars. Please advise us, may Allah reward you?

The Shaykh: The answer: He (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
When a person says that people are ruined he is himself ruined.من قال هلك الناس فهو أهلكهم،
Sahih Muslim 2623a
Did you hear? Yes, yes, that is enough. These are the people of takfir (declaring someone a disbeliever); we have known them for thirty years. And here in Jordan, in Amman especially, there were young men who were misguided by some of your people.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh: Then Allah the Exalted guided them, and we heard from them such speech.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh: And in three consecutive nights, the last night, I was taken from after the 'Isha' prayer to the adhan of Fajr. Yes, it was a mandatory companion, but it was the decisive blow, as they say. But Allah the Exalted guided them. So do not be concerned with these people, for they are truly ignorant, and they accuse others of what is in them. And Allah is the One to be sought for help.

The questioner: Yes. Meaning, he also does not pray Jumu'ah. He also does not pray Jumu'ah.

The Shaykh: My brother, these people declare the imams of the mosques, the mu'adhdhins of the mosques, and the teachers of Islamic sciences in the schools to be disbelievers, on the excuse that these are employees of this ruler whom they have declared a disbeliever. So everyone who lives under his rule is a disbeliever, even if he rejects his ruling. So do not pay them any attention whatsoever.

The questioner: Yes. May Allah reward you with good.

The Shaykh : And you as well, may Allah will it.
Source سلسلة الهدى والنور، المجلس 1266 — d3watuna.com (6:56)

The Arabic text is a machine transcription of the audio recording.

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