The ruling on marrying a non-Saudi woman and forging documents
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The questioner : From Jeddah.
The Shaykh : Adam, welcome.
The questioner : I would like to know how your health is?
The Shaykh : My health is good, praise be to Allah.
The questioner : May Allah prolong your life and your obedience to Him, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah accept it, and may the same be for you, and may Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : I have a question, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead.
The questioner : I hold Saudi citizenship. If I marry a non-Saudi girl who resides in the Kingdom, the law here requires the approval of the Ministry of Interior to obtain a marriage license. I am required to submit a document from my employer stating the salary I receive. I have not been employed yet; I will be employed, God willing, in two months or less. My salary might be above four thousand. This salary might make the permit difficult because they issue permits to those whose salary is less than two thousand riyals, it seems. The question is: Am I allowed to give a document stating that I work at my brother’s or a relative’s company with a salary of two thousand riyals, so that I can obtain this marriage permit and build a family, knowing that I am not currently working?
The Shaykh : Before I answer your question, why do they not allow it if the salary is more than two thousand?
The questioner : Because they want Saudi youth to marry Saudi girls, daughters of the country, and they believe that a salary of more than two thousand riyals is good for building a Saudi family. Because if you approach a Saudi family, they look at your salary; if your salary is low, they consider you poor and may not marry you to you. So they are lenient in this matter of marrying a non-Saudi based on the fact that your salary is low in this regard.
The Shaykh : Do you mean they do not allow marriage to a non-Saudi if your salary is high?
The questioner : That is one of the matters. The second matter is that they want to reduce the marriage of Saudis to non-Saudis, so they make the conditions difficult, they make the documents difficult, which
The Shaykh : Okay, if I married and the news reached them, meaning I married a Sharia marriage, i.e., I concluded a Sharia contract and not in the court, and then the news reached them in one way or another,
The questioner : Yes, they deport my wife to her country.
The Shaykh : They deport the wife to her country. So if I tell you, if you have the willingness to deport your wife to your country, you marry a Sharia marriage. And if you do not have the willingness, it is not permissible to lie in order to obtain this legal marriage.
The questioner : Yes. Even if my job is delayed for only two months.
The Shaykh : You are delayed, it does not matter to you. If you are on the way, the matter is easy. Many people here conclude the Sharia marriage, then the father of the wife does not allow him to sit with his wife alone, let alone that he does not allow him to have relations with her and to have intercourse with her, even though she has become his wife. So you are more entitled to delay until you remove this legal problem.
The questioner : I saw my fiancée during the engagement, so her family knows the Sunnah, God willing.
The Shaykh : That is not our topic. I am bringing the topic closer to you: if you are patient until you get employed, this will be, meaning, better.
The questioner : Okay, I remembered another question now. Am I allowed to speak to my fiancée on the phone about matters I want to discuss?
The Shaykh : If there are relatives of yours and relatives of hers in your gathering and in her gathering, it is permissible, and you mean your fiancée, i.e., before you contract with her, is that not so? So the answer is: I have not heard
The questioner : I have not contracted with her yet, but I want to clarify some matters with her on the phone.
The Shaykh : And the answer is: I have not heard. Yes. And you are repeating.
The questioner : The mahram. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And you as well.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The Shaykh : Adam, welcome.
The questioner : I would like to know how your health is?
The Shaykh : My health is good, praise be to Allah.
The questioner : May Allah prolong your life and your obedience to Him, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : May Allah accept it, and may the same be for you, and may Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : I have a question, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Please, go ahead.
The questioner : I hold Saudi citizenship. If I marry a non-Saudi girl who resides in the Kingdom, the law here requires the approval of the Ministry of Interior to obtain a marriage license. I am required to submit a document from my employer stating the salary I receive. I have not been employed yet; I will be employed, God willing, in two months or less. My salary might be above four thousand. This salary might make the permit difficult because they issue permits to those whose salary is less than two thousand riyals, it seems. The question is: Am I allowed to give a document stating that I work at my brother’s or a relative’s company with a salary of two thousand riyals, so that I can obtain this marriage permit and build a family, knowing that I am not currently working?
The Shaykh : Before I answer your question, why do they not allow it if the salary is more than two thousand?
The questioner : Because they want Saudi youth to marry Saudi girls, daughters of the country, and they believe that a salary of more than two thousand riyals is good for building a Saudi family. Because if you approach a Saudi family, they look at your salary; if your salary is low, they consider you poor and may not marry you to you. So they are lenient in this matter of marrying a non-Saudi based on the fact that your salary is low in this regard.
The Shaykh : Do you mean they do not allow marriage to a non-Saudi if your salary is high?
The questioner : That is one of the matters. The second matter is that they want to reduce the marriage of Saudis to non-Saudis, so they make the conditions difficult, they make the documents difficult, which
The Shaykh : Okay, if I married and the news reached them, meaning I married a Sharia marriage, i.e., I concluded a Sharia contract and not in the court, and then the news reached them in one way or another,
The questioner : Yes, they deport my wife to her country.
The Shaykh : They deport the wife to her country. So if I tell you, if you have the willingness to deport your wife to your country, you marry a Sharia marriage. And if you do not have the willingness, it is not permissible to lie in order to obtain this legal marriage.
The questioner : Yes. Even if my job is delayed for only two months.
The Shaykh : You are delayed, it does not matter to you. If you are on the way, the matter is easy. Many people here conclude the Sharia marriage, then the father of the wife does not allow him to sit with his wife alone, let alone that he does not allow him to have relations with her and to have intercourse with her, even though she has become his wife. So you are more entitled to delay until you remove this legal problem.
The questioner : I saw my fiancée during the engagement, so her family knows the Sunnah, God willing.
The Shaykh : That is not our topic. I am bringing the topic closer to you: if you are patient until you get employed, this will be, meaning, better.
The questioner : Okay, I remembered another question now. Am I allowed to speak to my fiancée on the phone about matters I want to discuss?
The Shaykh : If there are relatives of yours and relatives of hers in your gathering and in her gathering, it is permissible, and you mean your fiancée, i.e., before you contract with her, is that not so? So the answer is: I have not heard
The questioner : I have not contracted with her yet, but I want to clarify some matters with her on the phone.
The Shaykh : And the answer is: I have not heard. Yes. And you are repeating.
The questioner : The mahram. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And you as well.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
Source
سلسلة الهدى والنور، المجلس 1319 — d3watuna.com (13:05)
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