Is it permissible to swear by the words of Allah and the verses of Allah?

The questioner : Some people swear by the words of Allah, and the words of Allah. The words of Allah are cosmic, and they testify to it.

The Shaykh : No, this is what is detailed regarding the verses of Allah. As for the words of Allah, they are all uncreated, even the cosmic words by which He, Mighty and Majestic, creates; they are uncreated.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : The verses are what is detailed in.

The questioner : If he intends to say to him, this is shirk (associating partners with Allah).

The Shaykh : If he says, "I swear by the verses of Allah," we say: What do you mean by the verses of Allah? Do you mean the created things? Then this is not permissible.

The questioner : He covers it.

The Shaykh : Because the created things are among the verses of Allah, or do you mean by the verses of Allah His words? Like the Qur'an. As He, the Exalted, said: If he intends the latter, it is permissible. But in my view, the common people now who swear by the verses of Allah, "I swear by the verses of Allah," in my view they do not intend anything but the Qur'an. This is what appears.

The questioner : And the Shaykh does not tell them to leave it as well.

The Shaykh : It is better to leave it. It is better to leave it. There is no doubt that it is better to leave it.