Is it permissible to perform the collective takbir in Mina?
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The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. Our Shaykh, we read that the Salaf, the Companions, used to fill Mina with takbir during the days of Tashriq. It is observed these days that we hardly hear the takbir. We notice that when one person says the takbir, a group says it, as if their takbir must be synchronized. We have observed that when we do this, people join in and the takbir becomes loud. Is collective takbir permissible? Not for its own sake, but because it is sometimes difficult for a person, or he is not skilled at saying the takbir himself, and others disturb him, and so on. Is there any harm in a group saying the takbir that is prescribed in a group?
The Shaykh : By Allah, my brother, we cannot cure the abandonment of the Sunnah by committing a bid'ah (religious innovation). If the Companions, with their Prophet, did not say the takbir or the talbiyah collectively, but rather Anas said, "Some of us would say the takbir and some of us would say the talbiyah," then we do not innovate in the religion in order not to abandon the Sunnah. We say: We explain to people that it is a Sunnah, and that a person should bear witness with the takbir as the Companions used to do. And you see now, unfortunately, that people have abandoned this Sunnah. Even with the talbiyah, large convoys of cars pass by you and you do not hear anyone saying it.
Even though the Companions used to shout the talbiyah loudly, as Jabir said, "We used to shout it loudly." And yet, unfortunately, convoys of pilgrims pass by you and you do not hear anyone saying "Labbaik." When people used to come on camels, we found, as Allah wills, the "ajj" and "thajj" (the sounds of the camels) present.
You would find them disheveled and dusty on the backs of the camels, saying the talbiyah until you could hear their voices in the entire sky. But when the air-conditioned, covered cars came, the voice became faint. Yes, indeed.
The questioner : To clarify what is meant by collective takbir: it is not that they say it behind one person, but rather one says it, then the second says it, and so on.
The Shaykh : If I say "Allahu Akbar, La ilaha illa Allah" and the second person hears me and says "Allahu Akbar, La ilaha illa Allah," there is nothing wrong with that. This is not collective takbir. What is known to us as collective takbir is when one person says the takbir and the rest follow him with one voice.
The Shaykh : By Allah, my brother, we cannot cure the abandonment of the Sunnah by committing a bid'ah (religious innovation). If the Companions, with their Prophet, did not say the takbir or the talbiyah collectively, but rather Anas said, "Some of us would say the takbir and some of us would say the talbiyah," then we do not innovate in the religion in order not to abandon the Sunnah. We say: We explain to people that it is a Sunnah, and that a person should bear witness with the takbir as the Companions used to do. And you see now, unfortunately, that people have abandoned this Sunnah. Even with the talbiyah, large convoys of cars pass by you and you do not hear anyone saying it.
Even though the Companions used to shout the talbiyah loudly, as Jabir said, "We used to shout it loudly." And yet, unfortunately, convoys of pilgrims pass by you and you do not hear anyone saying "Labbaik." When people used to come on camels, we found, as Allah wills, the "ajj" and "thajj" (the sounds of the camels) present.
You would find them disheveled and dusty on the backs of the camels, saying the talbiyah until you could hear their voices in the entire sky. But when the air-conditioned, covered cars came, the voice became faint. Yes, indeed.
The questioner : To clarify what is meant by collective takbir: it is not that they say it behind one person, but rather one says it, then the second says it, and so on.
The Shaykh : If I say "Allahu Akbar, La ilaha illa Allah" and the second person hears me and says "Allahu Akbar, La ilaha illa Allah," there is nothing wrong with that. This is not collective takbir. What is known to us as collective takbir is when one person says the takbir and the rest follow him with one voice.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 2901 - هل يجوز التكبير الجماعي في منى؟ الكافي في فقه الإمام أحمد بن حنبل - ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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