Tracing the hadith of the one who says, "I seek forgiveness from Allah, the Living, the Everlasting"
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The questioner:
Al-Azdi is not corroborated in his hadith. And there is no other route; is there anything in the route?
The Shaykh:
The one who is in charge must refer to Musnad Ahmad and refer to some, like the Da'iyah and others; there may be other routes for it.
The questioner:
The second hadith, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
Yes, refer to it and trace it well.
The questioner:
The second hadith. It says: Ibn Murr narrated it, and you mentioned it in his Sunan, saying: Musa ibn Isma'il narrated to us, saying: Hafiz ibn Umar al-Shani narrated to us, saying: My father, Umar ibn Murr, told me, saying: I heard Bilal ibn Yasar ibn Zayd, the freed slave of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), say: I heard my father narrating to me from my grandfather that he heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) say:Sunan Abi Dawud 1517Sahih (Al-Albani) And the hadith has another narration, O Shaykh; Abu al-Hakim mentioned that the one who traced it said it is stronger than this narration.
The Shaykh:
Just that.
The questioner:
But we did not trace it, O Shaykh; we did not trace it, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
It says: He traced it, and its meaning is authentic, even if the chain is not authentic. If he seeks forgiveness from his Lord and repents to Him with a sincere repentance, Allah will forgive him his sins, even shirk (associating partners with Allah). There are many other proofs that if one repents to Allah and seeks forgiveness sincerely, Allah will forgive him his sins, even shirk, by the grace of Allah (Mighty and Majestic). And so it is with the people of Makkah and others of their lineage; Allah has cursed them.
The questioner:
I have another tracing.
The Shaykh:
Yes, it supports your case.
The questioner:
The hadithSunan Abi Dawud 1517Sahih (Al-Albani).
The Shaykh:
Do you have the tracing? Yes.
The questioner:
It says: Authentic; al-Bukhari traced it in al-Tarikh al-Kabir, and Abu Dawud.
The Shaykh:
Shaykh Nasser.
The questioner:
Shaykh Salim al-Hilali, one of the students of Shaykh Nasser.
The Shaykh:
Hmm?
The questioner:
It says: Authentic; al-Bukhari traced it in al-Tarikh al-Kabir, and Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi, through the route of Musa ibn Isma'il, who said: Hafiz ibn Umar al-Shani informed us, saying: My father, Umar ibn Murr, told me, saying: I heard Bilal ibn Yasar ibn Zayd, who said: My father told me from my grandfather, who heard the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), and he mentioned it. Al-Tirmidhi said: It is strange; we do not know it except from this route. I said: Its chain is weak, as he said. Al-Tirmidhi said: Because Hafiz ibn Umar and those above him have weakness in them. And the hadith has a corroborating narration from Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, which al-Hakim traced and graded as authentic according to the conditions of the two Shaykhs. Al-Dhahabi criticized this, saying: Abu Sinan is Dharar ibn Murr; al-Bukhari did not trace anything from him. I said: Its chain is authentic. And the author (may Allah have mercy on him) made a mistake by attributing the hadith of Ibn Mas'ud to Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi, whereas it is with them from the hadith of Zayd, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), and the hadith of Ibn Mas'ud is with al-Hakim. End.
The Shaykh:
Yes, this is a hadith of the utmost precision; I have dealt with it.
The presenter:
This question, O Shaykh.
Al-Azdi is not corroborated in his hadith. And there is no other route; is there anything in the route?
The Shaykh:
The one who is in charge must refer to Musnad Ahmad and refer to some, like the Da'iyah and others; there may be other routes for it.
The questioner:
The second hadith, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
Yes, refer to it and trace it well.
The questioner:
The second hadith. It says: Ibn Murr narrated it, and you mentioned it in his Sunan, saying: Musa ibn Isma'il narrated to us, saying: Hafiz ibn Umar al-Shani narrated to us, saying: My father, Umar ibn Murr, told me, saying: I heard Bilal ibn Yasar ibn Zayd, the freed slave of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), say: I heard my father narrating to me from my grandfather that he heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) say:
If anyone says: "I ask pardon of Allah than Whom there is no deity, the Living, the eternal, and I turn to Him in repentance," he will be pardoned, even if he has fled in time of battle.
من قال أستغفر الله الذي لا إله إلا هو الحي القيوم وأتوب إليه غفر له وإن كان فر من الزحفThe Shaykh:
Just that.
The questioner:
But we did not trace it, O Shaykh; we did not trace it, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh:
It says: He traced it, and its meaning is authentic, even if the chain is not authentic. If he seeks forgiveness from his Lord and repents to Him with a sincere repentance, Allah will forgive him his sins, even shirk (associating partners with Allah). There are many other proofs that if one repents to Allah and seeks forgiveness sincerely, Allah will forgive him his sins, even shirk, by the grace of Allah (Mighty and Majestic). And so it is with the people of Makkah and others of their lineage; Allah has cursed them.
The questioner:
I have another tracing.
The Shaykh:
Yes, it supports your case.
The questioner:
The hadith
I ask pardon of Allah than Whom there is no deity
استغفر الله الذي لا إله إلا هوThe Shaykh:
Do you have the tracing? Yes.
The questioner:
It says: Authentic; al-Bukhari traced it in al-Tarikh al-Kabir, and Abu Dawud.
The Shaykh:
Shaykh Nasser.
The questioner:
Shaykh Salim al-Hilali, one of the students of Shaykh Nasser.
The Shaykh:
Hmm?
The questioner:
It says: Authentic; al-Bukhari traced it in al-Tarikh al-Kabir, and Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi, through the route of Musa ibn Isma'il, who said: Hafiz ibn Umar al-Shani informed us, saying: My father, Umar ibn Murr, told me, saying: I heard Bilal ibn Yasar ibn Zayd, who said: My father told me from my grandfather, who heard the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), and he mentioned it. Al-Tirmidhi said: It is strange; we do not know it except from this route. I said: Its chain is weak, as he said. Al-Tirmidhi said: Because Hafiz ibn Umar and those above him have weakness in them. And the hadith has a corroborating narration from Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, which al-Hakim traced and graded as authentic according to the conditions of the two Shaykhs. Al-Dhahabi criticized this, saying: Abu Sinan is Dharar ibn Murr; al-Bukhari did not trace anything from him. I said: Its chain is authentic. And the author (may Allah have mercy on him) made a mistake by attributing the hadith of Ibn Mas'ud to Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi, whereas it is with them from the hadith of Zayd, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), and the hadith of Ibn Mas'ud is with al-Hakim. End.
The Shaykh:
Yes, this is a hadith of the utmost precision; I have dealt with it.
The presenter:
This question, O Shaykh.
Source
شرح رياض الصالحين، باب الاستغفار — islamhouse.com (34:16)
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