The ruling on a woman going to Makkah with a driver and a group of women
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The questioner:
This is a questioner who says: My longing for the Haram has been prolonged, my father is ill, and my brothers do not go on their own except rarely.
The Shaykh:
What?
The questioner:
She says: My longing for the Haram has been prolonged.
The Shaykh:
Yes.
The questioner:
And my father is ill, and my brothers rarely go on their own, and some of them do not go at all. Is it permissible for me to go with a trustworthy driver and a group of good women from Jeddah to Makkah? I am, praise be to Allah, familiar with the roads, and I am in my fourth decade of life. What is the basis for the prohibition in this matter? And is it permissible to perform 'Umrah, and likewise Hajj, in this manner?
The Shaykh:
This is seclusion (khalwah) in riding with the questioner, even if it is within the city; this is forbidden. I mean, she is secluded with him in the car, and seclusion is forbidden. As for travel, that is a different matter. Travel without a mahram is forbidden by the explicit text of the hadith:
The second issue is seclusion, whether in the house or in the car, whether in the house or in the car. A woman does not seclude herself with a man. Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2165Sahih (Darussalam) Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1171Sahih (Darussalam). Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1171Sahih (Darussalam).
Because a woman guards herself against a non-mahram, but she does not guard herself against a close relative with the same caution. Therefore, it is not permissible to enter upon women, and it is not permissible for a woman to seclude herself with a man. A man does not seclude himself with a woman.Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2165Sahih (Darussalam) Whether in the car, in the house, in the office, or in any place, it is not permissible. Yes.
The questioner:
She says: And if she is with a good group of women.
The Shaykh:
If there are others with them, the seclusion is removed by their presence. A second or third woman, or if there are men with them and they are not traveling, there is no harm. The seclusion is removed by the presence of those who remove it. But if there are only children with him, it is not removed; it remains. But if there are adults with her, the seclusion is removed by them. Unless there is fear of them. Some gangs are criminal men. She is not safe from them. But if it is a group, meaning a sound and chaste group, there is no harm. Yes.
The questioner:
Within the city or outside the city?
The Shaykh:
Huh? Seclusion is not permissible, my brother, neither within the city nor outside the city, neither in the house nor in the office nor in the car. Seclusion is not permissible. Yes.
The presenter:
May Allah reward you,
This is a questioner who says: My longing for the Haram has been prolonged, my father is ill, and my brothers do not go on their own except rarely.
The Shaykh:
What?
The questioner:
She says: My longing for the Haram has been prolonged.
The Shaykh:
Yes.
The questioner:
And my father is ill, and my brothers rarely go on their own, and some of them do not go at all. Is it permissible for me to go with a trustworthy driver and a group of good women from Jeddah to Makkah? I am, praise be to Allah, familiar with the roads, and I am in my fourth decade of life. What is the basis for the prohibition in this matter? And is it permissible to perform 'Umrah, and likewise Hajj, in this manner?
The Shaykh:
This is seclusion (khalwah) in riding with the questioner, even if it is within the city; this is forbidden. I mean, she is secluded with him in the car, and seclusion is forbidden. As for travel, that is a different matter. Travel without a mahram is forbidden by the explicit text of the hadith:
It is not permissible for a woman who believes in Allah and the Last Day to travel except with them and with them.
لا يحل لامرأة أؤمنوا بالله واليوم الآخر وتسافر إلا ومعهم ومعهم.The second issue is seclusion, whether in the house or in the car, whether in the house or in the car. A woman does not seclude herself with a man.
A man does not seclude himself with a woman
ما خلى رجل بامرأةA man is not alone with a woman but the third of them is Ash-Shaitan
رجل بامرأة إلا كان ثالثهما الشيطانBeware of entering upon women.
إياكم والدخول على النساءBeware of entering upon women.
إياكم والدخول على النساءThey said: O Messenger of Allah, what about the close relative, meaning the husband’s close relative, his brother or not? Does he need to enter? He said (peace and blessings be upon him): The close relative is death, meaning his danger is more severe.
قالوا يا رسول الله أرأيت الحمل يعني قريب الزوج أخوه ولا؟ يحتاج الدخول. قال صلى الله عليه وسلم الحمل موت يعني خطره أشد.Because a woman guards herself against a non-mahram, but she does not guard herself against a close relative with the same caution. Therefore, it is not permissible to enter upon women, and it is not permissible for a woman to seclude herself with a man. A man does not seclude himself with a woman.
A man is not alone with a woman but the third of them is Ash-Shaitan
رجل بامرأة إلا كان ثالثهما الشيطانThe questioner:
She says: And if she is with a good group of women.
The Shaykh:
If there are others with them, the seclusion is removed by their presence. A second or third woman, or if there are men with them and they are not traveling, there is no harm. The seclusion is removed by the presence of those who remove it. But if there are only children with him, it is not removed; it remains. But if there are adults with her, the seclusion is removed by them. Unless there is fear of them. Some gangs are criminal men. She is not safe from them. But if it is a group, meaning a sound and chaste group, there is no harm. Yes.
The questioner:
Within the city or outside the city?
The Shaykh:
Huh? Seclusion is not permissible, my brother, neither within the city nor outside the city, neither in the house nor in the office nor in the car. Seclusion is not permissible. Yes.
The presenter:
May Allah reward you,
Source
شرح نواقض الإسلام [ صالح الفوزان ]، بداية من الناقض الخامس : من أبغض شيئًا مما جاء به الرسول - صلى الله عليه وسلم - ولو عمل به؛ كفر — islamhouse.com (17:05)
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