The ruling on relieving oneself in a gathering where there is wrongdoing in order to forbid it
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Question:
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success. Some jurists (may Allah have mercy on them) mentioned that if the place where people sit and take shelter contains a forbidden matter, such as backbiting, then it is permissible for a person to relieve himself in that place, because it falls under the category of dispersing them and forbidding the wrongdoing against them. Does this statement have a valid basis?
Answer:
Allah knows best. They mentioned this, but it contradicts the general prohibition of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). It contradicts the general prohibition of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). And wrongdoing is not removed by wrongdoing. So urinating in the shade or in the gathering is a wrongdoing, and backbiting and talebearing, or doing a forbidden act, is a wrongdoing. Wrongdoing is not removed by wrongdoing. Yes.
He says: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success. Some jurists (may Allah have mercy on them) mentioned that if the place where people sit and take shelter contains a forbidden matter, such as backbiting, then it is permissible for a person to relieve himself in that place, because it falls under the category of dispersing them and forbidding the wrongdoing against them. Does this statement have a valid basis?
Answer:
Allah knows best. They mentioned this, but it contradicts the general prohibition of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). It contradicts the general prohibition of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). And wrongdoing is not removed by wrongdoing. So urinating in the shade or in the gathering is a wrongdoing, and backbiting and talebearing, or doing a forbidden act, is a wrongdoing. Wrongdoing is not removed by wrongdoing. Yes.
Source
شرح كتاب المنتقى من أخبار المصطفى صلى الله عليه وسلم، بداية من باب ارتياد المكان الرخو وما يكره التخلي فيه — islamhouse.com (38:54)
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