What is the meaning of Ibn al-Qayyim’s statement when he mentioned the punishment of Pharaoh and his people, saying: “So the souls are for burning, and the bodies are for drowning”?
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The questioner:
The Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success, says: In the words of Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) in *Al-Jawab al-Kafi* (The Sufficient Answer) regarding the mention of the punishments for sins, he mentioned the punishment of Pharaoh and his people. He said (may Allah have mercy on him): “So the souls are for burning, and the bodies are for drowning.” Does this mean that the bodies…
The Shaykh:
He means that the souls are for burning, meaning they are tormented by fire, tormented by fire,[Al-Buruj 85:10]. Does this mean that they burn and die? No, they burn, refuge in Allah, and they do not die. Yes.
The questioner:
He asks: Does this mean that the bodies are not tormented because they have drowned, and that the torment is for the soul?
The Shaykh:
No, the torment is for the bodies and for the souls, for the bodies and for the souls, without a doubt. This is a well-known matter. Yes.
The presenter:
We say: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success.
The Shaykh:
As for their sins, they were drowned; their bodies were drowned, and they were thrown into the Fire. Their bodies and their souls were thrown into the Fire. Yes.
The Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success, says: In the words of Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) in *Al-Jawab al-Kafi* (The Sufficient Answer) regarding the mention of the punishments for sins, he mentioned the punishment of Pharaoh and his people. He said (may Allah have mercy on him): “So the souls are for burning, and the bodies are for drowning.” Does this mean that the bodies…
The Shaykh:
He means that the souls are for burning, meaning they are tormented by fire, tormented by fire,
will have the punishment of Hell, and they will have the punishment of the Burning Fire.
فَلَهُمْ عَذَابُ جَهَنَّمَ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابُ الْحَرِيقِThe questioner:
He asks: Does this mean that the bodies are not tormented because they have drowned, and that the torment is for the soul?
The Shaykh:
No, the torment is for the bodies and for the souls, for the bodies and for the souls, without a doubt. This is a well-known matter. Yes.
The presenter:
We say: Honorable Shaykh, may Allah grant you success.
The Shaykh:
As for their sins, they were drowned; their bodies were drowned, and they were thrown into the Fire. Their bodies and their souls were thrown into the Fire. Yes.
Source
قناة «العلامة الدكتور صالح الفوزان»، [993 -1024] ما معنى قول ابن القيم لما ذكر عقوبة فرعون وقومه، قال: فالأرواح للحرق، والأبدان للغرق؟ — youtube.com
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