If the one who joins the prayer late says the takbir and the imam raises his head before he bows, is he considered to have caught the rak'ah?
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The questioner : What? He said the takbir before the imam straightened up from the bowing.
The Shaykh : If he did not catch it? Yes.
The questioner : It is necessary.
The Shaykh : If he catches the imam in the bowing.
The questioner : Even if how?
The Shaykh : Even if we said the takbir.
The questioner : He arrived while the imam was bowing, then he said the takbir of intention and entered the prayer, and after that he bowed. We cannot say that he entered with the imam now, but we consider that he did not match or follow the imam because he said the takbir of intention and entered the prayer now, but he lagged behind the imam in terms of his delay.
The Shaykh : He missed the bowing, meaning?
The questioner : I mean he entered the prayer like a man who, if he had been continuing with his imam, would have lagged behind after the bowing.
The Shaykh : But does it mean the imam raised his head from the bowing or not?
The questioner : He said the takbir of intention before the time.
The Shaykh : Okay, and he caught the bowing.
The questioner : He finished, wait, and return after that, after standing.
The Shaykh : He does not leave this. This is a person who joined the prayer late.
The questioner : But the Shaykh, the one entering the prayer now, if he lags behind his imam, is he considered... or. No, if he lags behind
The Shaykh : If he lags behind intentionally, he does not catch it. If he lags behind intentionally, he misses the bowing. In fact, the correct view is that if he lags behind intentionally until the imam rises from the bowing, the prayer is invalid.
The Shaykh : If he did not catch it? Yes.
The questioner : It is necessary.
The Shaykh : If he catches the imam in the bowing.
The questioner : Even if how?
The Shaykh : Even if we said the takbir.
The questioner : He arrived while the imam was bowing, then he said the takbir of intention and entered the prayer, and after that he bowed. We cannot say that he entered with the imam now, but we consider that he did not match or follow the imam because he said the takbir of intention and entered the prayer now, but he lagged behind the imam in terms of his delay.
The Shaykh : He missed the bowing, meaning?
The questioner : I mean he entered the prayer like a man who, if he had been continuing with his imam, would have lagged behind after the bowing.
The Shaykh : But does it mean the imam raised his head from the bowing or not?
The questioner : He said the takbir of intention before the time.
The Shaykh : Okay, and he caught the bowing.
The questioner : He finished, wait, and return after that, after standing.
The Shaykh : He does not leave this. This is a person who joined the prayer late.
The questioner : But the Shaykh, the one entering the prayer now, if he lags behind his imam, is he considered... or. No, if he lags behind
The Shaykh : If he lags behind intentionally, he does not catch it. If he lags behind intentionally, he misses the bowing. In fact, the correct view is that if he lags behind intentionally until the imam rises from the bowing, the prayer is invalid.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 928 - 4600 إذا كبر المسبوق وقبل أن ينحني رفع الإمام هل يعد مدرك للركعة؟ ان عثيمين — youtube.com
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