Is the sa'y (walking between al-Safa and al-Marwah) between the two markers in all the rounds?

The Shaykh : The second paragraph.

The questioner : The second paragraph says: You mentioned the sa'y between the two markers; is it in the three rounds or in all of them?

The Shaykh : Yes, in all the rounds. The sa'y between the two markers in the place of sa'y is in all the rounds. As for the phrase , it is not said except when you approach al-Safa from the direction of the tawaf (circumambulation) of the Ka'bah, and only once. It is not said at al-Marwah at all, nor is it said at al-Safa in the remaining rounds. It is also not said when you begin the sa'y, but you say it when you approach al-Safa. This is because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), when he drew near to al-Safa, recited “Begin with what Allah began with.”