Can the description given for the Khawarij apply to others, such as the Sufis?
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The questioner : The intended meaning of this statement is possible; it may refer to a group other than the Khawarij and the one who exits.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They expel you, meaning they used to expel you.
The Shaykh : Yes, the separation.
The questioner : I mean, it is possible, meaning we can look at it from another perspective.
The Shaykh : If one is found doing what they did, he is a Khariji.
The questioner : It is necessary in these Khawarij. I mean, some Sufis do things that are contrary to the religion, and many other things.
The Shaykh : The Sufis do not rebel against the people. The Sufis, by their name, are the wool-clad ones; they do not rebel against anyone. But the Khawarij, one of them is, as the common people say, a piece of death.
The questioner : I mean, Shaykh, the reciters now. Some people recite the Qur'an. I mean, the reciter recites, for example, "Take them and drive them out," the people other than Allah.
The Shaykh : These are ignorant people. What?
The questioner : No, the intention is not easy, Shaykh. He does not know.
The Shaykh : No, no, the intended meaning of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is that faith does not reach their hearts. That is his intent.
The questioner : And this is the important point.
The Shaykh : Its meaning.
The questioner : In reality, Shaykh, in most countries now where there are Sufis, the Sufis in those countries support the rulers and do not rebel against them, and they are among their strongest supporters.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I mean, we have someone who recites the Qur'an and is careful.
The Shaykh : Something observed, observed.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They expel you, meaning they used to expel you.
The Shaykh : Yes, the separation.
The questioner : I mean, it is possible, meaning we can look at it from another perspective.
The Shaykh : If one is found doing what they did, he is a Khariji.
The questioner : It is necessary in these Khawarij. I mean, some Sufis do things that are contrary to the religion, and many other things.
The Shaykh : The Sufis do not rebel against the people. The Sufis, by their name, are the wool-clad ones; they do not rebel against anyone. But the Khawarij, one of them is, as the common people say, a piece of death.
The questioner : I mean, Shaykh, the reciters now. Some people recite the Qur'an. I mean, the reciter recites, for example, "Take them and drive them out," the people other than Allah.
The Shaykh : These are ignorant people. What?
The questioner : No, the intention is not easy, Shaykh. He does not know.
The Shaykh : No, no, the intended meaning of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) is that faith does not reach their hearts. That is his intent.
The questioner : And this is the important point.
The Shaykh : Its meaning.
The questioner : In reality, Shaykh, in most countries now where there are Sufis, the Sufis in those countries support the rulers and do not rebel against them, and they are among their strongest supporters.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I mean, we have someone who recites the Qur'an and is careful.
The Shaykh : Something observed, observed.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 494- هل يمكن أن ينطبق الوصف الذي ورد في الخوارج على غيرهم كالصوفية؟ - ابن عثيمين — youtube.com
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