The precedence of the Pen or the Throne in creation
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Question:
And he (peace and blessings be upon him) said that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is All-Powerful now, before the cattle, the heavens, and the earth. And we said that one does not attain what… that He protects him from the Fire or what Allah has commanded. And they asked what it is that Allah has commanded. Yes, yes, the greatest.
Answer:
So the scholars differed regarding the Pen and the Throne: which is earlier? The correct view is that the Throne is earlier than the Pen. The scholar Ibn al-Qayyim says that people differ regarding the Pen by which the decree was written: was it before the Throne or after it? There are two views according to Abu Ali al-Hamadhani, and the truth is that the Throne was before it, because at the time of the writing it had pillars. So Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He) informed that the Throne existed before the Pen.
ThatMishkat al-Masabih 79Sahīh (Zubair `Aliza'i) the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said Sahih al-Bukhari 4684 and his saying Sahih al-Bukhari 4684 is evidence that the Throne existed before the writing. Allah knows best.
And he (peace and blessings be upon him) said that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is All-Powerful now, before the cattle, the heavens, and the earth. And we said that one does not attain what… that He protects him from the Fire or what Allah has commanded. And they asked what it is that Allah has commanded. Yes, yes, the greatest.
Answer:
So the scholars differed regarding the Pen and the Throne: which is earlier? The correct view is that the Throne is earlier than the Pen. The scholar Ibn al-Qayyim says that people differ regarding the Pen by which the decree was written: was it before the Throne or after it? There are two views according to Abu Ali al-Hamadhani, and the truth is that the Throne was before it, because at the time of the writing it had pillars. So Allah (Glorified and Exalted is He) informed that the Throne existed before the Pen.
That
God recorded the fates of all creatures 50,000 years before creating the heavens
الله سبحانه كتب مقادير الخلائق قبل أن يخلق السماوات بخمسين ألف سنة،His Throne was over the water
وكان عرشه على الماءHis Throne was over the water
وكان عرشه على الماء
Source
قناة «العلامة الدكتور صالح الفوزان»، 4 من 12/ شرح الأصول الثلاثة / بم عرفت ربك؟ قل: بآياته ومخلوقاته/صالح الفوزان/العقيدة / كبار العلماء — youtube.com (1:06:58)
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