Is a male driver in a woman’s home considered seclusion (khalwah)?

The questioner:
Your Eminence the Shaykh! The questioner says: Is a male driver in a woman’s home considered seclusion (khalwah)?

The Shaykh:
What? All right.

The questioner:
The questioner says: Is a male driver in a woman’s home considered seclusion (khalwah)?

The Shaykh:
Being alone with the driver in the car is seclusion (khalwah), and sitting with him alone in the house is seclusion (khalwah). It is not permissible. Nor with the husband’s brother, nor with the husband’s uncle, nor with any of the neighbors. This is seclusion (khalwah). There must be a third person present with them in the car or in the sitting, a third male or female, so that the seclusion (khalwah) is removed.