The ruling on selling goods at the place of purchase or moving them
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The questioner : Finally, Shaykh, if a merchant, for example, buys goods that are stacked in the same location, buys them, pays for them, and takes possession of them, but does not want to move them, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : No, he must move them.
The questioner : If he shifts them.
The Shaykh : And it is permissible to sell them in their place. He must move them.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : These goods are separated from the place of purchase.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : This is necessary; there are many hadiths regarding this.
The questioner : Okay, Shaykh, sometimes, for example, you go to a shop that has, say, five hundred boxes of tomatoes, do you understand? They act as brokers, and we buy them, and in our shop we become the sellers. Now, the market is, say, three hours, or the selling takes two hours. If you want to buy them and move them, these five hundred, or four hundred, or three hundred, it is possible that you will not sell them and will spend the whole market time moving them. So sometimes we buy and move them, and sometimes we buy and sell them in their place, where each stack is, for example, twenty boxes stacked up.
The Shaykh : Now, what I understood at the beginning is different from what I understood at the end. At the end, I understood "their place"; at the beginning, I understood "your shop." Okay, so there are two scenarios.
The questioner : Yes, we have a shop.
The Shaykh : No problem, so there are two scenarios. Do you mean both scenarios?
The questioner : No, this scenario is better. Yes, do you mean both scenarios: that you have a shop and you load goods at your neighbor's place? Sometimes, the shop belongs to my father, but we, for example, might buy and sell inside the market; we buy from another shop and sell. He refused it.
The Shaykh : Do these farmers, for example, or agricultural workers, come down to you, and there is a bidding process, and the bidding might fall to you?
The questioner : No, to other people, and it is possible, and it is possible that.
The Shaykh : By "two scenarios," what we are talking about, I understood that you have two scenarios.
The questioner : Shaykh, the first scenario is that they, for example, buy the goods, they agree with the farmers to bring them to their shop, and they are unloaded at the door of their shop. Can we buy on our account? It is complete, it is not. Trust, trust. Or they might buy on their own account and unload at the door of the shop, and the second scenario, Shaykh, is that they spread out in the market.
The Shaykh : Let us take the first scenario.
The questioner : The first scenario, Shaykh, is that they buy these goods and unload them at the door of the shop, and they start selling them at the door of the shop.
The Shaykh : How do they benefit?
The questioner : They take possession of the goods at the door of their shop. Yes. Okay. And the second scenario, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : This has two scenarios.
The questioner : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The following scenario is clear.
The questioner : No, Shaykh, the second scenario is the matter you want, that it is possible, for example, now, to go to a merchant opposite them, and see that he has, for example, a car of tomatoes, meaning I want to buy it.
The Shaykh : Yes, we do not call it that.
The questioner : We do not call it that.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is clear. It is not permissible. We want the scenario that is permissible.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : I mean, in the first scenario, in his shop, these goods were unloaded in his shop and he bought them, but here did he buy them directly or by public auction? How did this happen?
The questioner : The auction is sometimes an auction on. But let me ask you. And. Did you buy by the auction that is with them, or directly, for example, from the farmer? No, by the auction. The grapes, through the market authority, through the market, there is an auction, and you take them, and sometimes you go to the merchant and you separate yourself from him, you buy them, meaning not from the farm. I understand you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : No, I do not understand him, and no blame, did the goods come from the farmer and were unloaded in your shop, in your place, and there the bidding took place?
The questioner : Yes, it is possible that a farmer comes and unloads at my place and I sell it to him.
The Shaykh : Is it possible that you hurt?
The questioner : There are.
The Shaykh : I mean, the answer to my question.
The questioner : Yes, there are farmers who unload from them, and we sell to them. Okay, yes.
The Shaykh : And you bought.
The questioner : And we might buy.
The Shaykh : And you might not buy.
The questioner : And we might not buy, because if there is an auction and the price suits you, like any other stranger, there is another auction, it is sold, meaning like any person coming to buy, the price might not please you, so you do not buy.
The Shaykh : Okay, so if you bought the goods that were unloaded in your shop here, you are not required to move them because you want to move them and this is your shop, but the first scenario where you bought in a distant place, it is not permissible for you to sell them in your place; you must move them to another place, this place belongs to you or another place. I mean, the goods that are unloaded at your place, and people bid, and the bid falls to you, there is no harm in you selling them in the same place, but if you bought in another place and it is not your place, you must move them to another place, there you sell them and dispose of them. And perhaps this is enough, if Allah wills.
The questioner : Welcome, O Shaykh. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Welcome. Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You, I testify that there is no god but You, I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
The Shaykh : No, he must move them.
The questioner : If he shifts them.
The Shaykh : And it is permissible to sell them in their place. He must move them.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : These goods are separated from the place of purchase.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : This is necessary; there are many hadiths regarding this.
The questioner : Okay, Shaykh, sometimes, for example, you go to a shop that has, say, five hundred boxes of tomatoes, do you understand? They act as brokers, and we buy them, and in our shop we become the sellers. Now, the market is, say, three hours, or the selling takes two hours. If you want to buy them and move them, these five hundred, or four hundred, or three hundred, it is possible that you will not sell them and will spend the whole market time moving them. So sometimes we buy and move them, and sometimes we buy and sell them in their place, where each stack is, for example, twenty boxes stacked up.
The Shaykh : Now, what I understood at the beginning is different from what I understood at the end. At the end, I understood "their place"; at the beginning, I understood "your shop." Okay, so there are two scenarios.
The questioner : Yes, we have a shop.
The Shaykh : No problem, so there are two scenarios. Do you mean both scenarios?
The questioner : No, this scenario is better. Yes, do you mean both scenarios: that you have a shop and you load goods at your neighbor's place? Sometimes, the shop belongs to my father, but we, for example, might buy and sell inside the market; we buy from another shop and sell. He refused it.
The Shaykh : Do these farmers, for example, or agricultural workers, come down to you, and there is a bidding process, and the bidding might fall to you?
The questioner : No, to other people, and it is possible, and it is possible that.
The Shaykh : By "two scenarios," what we are talking about, I understood that you have two scenarios.
The questioner : Shaykh, the first scenario is that they, for example, buy the goods, they agree with the farmers to bring them to their shop, and they are unloaded at the door of their shop. Can we buy on our account? It is complete, it is not. Trust, trust. Or they might buy on their own account and unload at the door of the shop, and the second scenario, Shaykh, is that they spread out in the market.
The Shaykh : Let us take the first scenario.
The questioner : The first scenario, Shaykh, is that they buy these goods and unload them at the door of the shop, and they start selling them at the door of the shop.
The Shaykh : How do they benefit?
The questioner : They take possession of the goods at the door of their shop. Yes. Okay. And the second scenario, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : This has two scenarios.
The questioner : Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The following scenario is clear.
The questioner : No, Shaykh, the second scenario is the matter you want, that it is possible, for example, now, to go to a merchant opposite them, and see that he has, for example, a car of tomatoes, meaning I want to buy it.
The Shaykh : Yes, we do not call it that.
The questioner : We do not call it that.
The Shaykh : Yes, it is clear. It is not permissible. We want the scenario that is permissible.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : I mean, in the first scenario, in his shop, these goods were unloaded in his shop and he bought them, but here did he buy them directly or by public auction? How did this happen?
The questioner : The auction is sometimes an auction on. But let me ask you. And. Did you buy by the auction that is with them, or directly, for example, from the farmer? No, by the auction. The grapes, through the market authority, through the market, there is an auction, and you take them, and sometimes you go to the merchant and you separate yourself from him, you buy them, meaning not from the farm. I understand you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : No, I do not understand him, and no blame, did the goods come from the farmer and were unloaded in your shop, in your place, and there the bidding took place?
The questioner : Yes, it is possible that a farmer comes and unloads at my place and I sell it to him.
The Shaykh : Is it possible that you hurt?
The questioner : There are.
The Shaykh : I mean, the answer to my question.
The questioner : Yes, there are farmers who unload from them, and we sell to them. Okay, yes.
The Shaykh : And you bought.
The questioner : And we might buy.
The Shaykh : And you might not buy.
The questioner : And we might not buy, because if there is an auction and the price suits you, like any other stranger, there is another auction, it is sold, meaning like any person coming to buy, the price might not please you, so you do not buy.
The Shaykh : Okay, so if you bought the goods that were unloaded in your shop here, you are not required to move them because you want to move them and this is your shop, but the first scenario where you bought in a distant place, it is not permissible for you to sell them in your place; you must move them to another place, this place belongs to you or another place. I mean, the goods that are unloaded at your place, and people bid, and the bid falls to you, there is no harm in you selling them in the same place, but if you bought in another place and it is not your place, you must move them to another place, there you sell them and dispose of them. And perhaps this is enough, if Allah wills.
The questioner : Welcome, O Shaykh. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : Welcome. Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You, I testify that there is no god but You, I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
Source
سلسلة الهدى والنور، رقم 1244 في قناة «تسجيلات الإمام الألباني - محمد أبو ليلى الأثري» — youtube.com (16:55)
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