The Ruling on Raising the Hands in Qunut and the Sermon, and the Impact of the Hadith on Seeking Rain
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The questioner : This questioner says: What is the ruling on raising the hands during the supplication of qunut, and during the sermons for Friday, the two festivals, and seeking rain? And is there a basis for raising the index finger when mentioning Allah, whether inside the prayer or outside of it? May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : As for raising the hands in the supplication of qunut, al-Bayhaqi narrated it with a good or authentic chain from the Commander of the Faithful, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab. As for raising the hands when making supplication in the sermon. As for raising the hands in the supplication of qunut, al-Bayhaqi narrated it with a good or authentic chain from the Commander of the Faithful, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
As for raising the hands when making supplication in the sermon, the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) criticized Bishr ibn Marwan when he delivered a sermon and raised his hands in the supplication of the sermon. However, it is established from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that when the Bedouin entered while the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was delivering the sermon on Friday, he said: "O Messenger of Allah, the wealth has perished and the paths have been cut off, so call upon Allah to relieve us." So the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) raised his hands and said: "O Allah, relieve us. O Allah, relieve us." Anas ibn Malik, who is the narrator of the hadith,Sahih Muslim 897a is the cloud? The large, spreading cloud, and the small cloud is the tuft. So the sky was clear and sunny. Anas said: "There was no house or dwelling between us and Sulayl."
The presenter : Thank you.
The Shaykh : There is a mountain near Madinah from whose side clouds appear. Anas said: So Allah sent forth a cloud from behind him like a shield. When it reached the middle of the sky, it spread out, thundered, flashed, and rained. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not descend from the pulpit until the rain was dripping from his beard. Allahu Akbar! Glory be to the One who[Ash-Shuraa 42:9] The rain continued for a Saturday, meaning a full week. A man entered during the second Friday, or it was the first man, because Anas was asked about it: Was it the first man or not? He said: I do not know. He said: O Messenger of Allah, the wealth has been drowned and the buildings have collapsed. From what is this?
From the abundance of rain,Sahih al-Bukhari 1033, and he kept pointing to the clouds as he pointed to our side, until they parted, and the people went out walking in the sun, while the area around Madinah was still raining, because the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "O Allah, around us and not upon us." It became clear from this that raising the hands in the Friday sermon is permissible in seeking rain and seeking relief from rain. Seeking rain means asking for rain, and seeking relief from rain means asking for the rain to stop. The people had raised their hands with the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) when he made supplication on the first Friday, when he made supplication for rain. So this is also evidence that the congregants who are listening to the sermon raise their hands in the supplication for seeking rain only. As for when the preacher makes supplication on Friday for anything else, he does not raise his hands, and it is not prescribed for the congregants listening to his sermon to raise their hands either. Our question regarding the hadith we cited about the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) seeking rain. We direct it to you: Did the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) answer the Bedouin on the second Friday according to what he asked?
The questioner : In the name of Allah.
The Shaykh : No. Allah Himself, because what was requested of him was to satisfy us with an increase. Yes, the Bedouin asked the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to call upon Allah to hold it back, but the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not call upon Allah for that. Rather, he called upon Allah for the rain to be around us and not upon us, because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is wise, so he called upon Allah the Exalted for what contains benefit without harm.
Another question in this hadith: Does it indicate that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) the hardship? Who? It is said: This hadith is not used as evidence that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) rescues from hardship. Because when the Bedouin directed the request to the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him), did he say: "O Messenger of Allah, the wealth has perished and the paths have been cut off, so relieve us?" No, he said: "So call upon Allah to relieve us." And when the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said that to him, did he say: "O rain, descend"? No, rather he said: "O Allah, relieve us." So he said: This is what is permissible regarding calling upon the Messenger for aid. Leave the first part of the hadith. What is your opinion of the second part of the hadith? It does not point to a side until it parted. Now the clouds obey the Messenger's command by pointing, so how much more so by speech?
The presenter : This is considered, meaning returning.
The Shaykh : Who can answer this? Oh. Ha? He did not say: "O cloud, move to the right and left," but rather he said: "O Allah, around us and not upon us," and he pointed to the directions around us and not upon us. And the clouds part by the command of whom? By the command of Allah the Mighty and Majestic, whom his Messenger called upon to make the rain around them and not upon them. And by this it is known that there is no basis for one who calls upon the Messenger for aid to rescue him from hardships, neither by this hadith nor by any other. O our brothers, do not buy into it. You are below the Messenger. A fortiori. A fortiori. And Allah the Mighty and Majestic said:[Saba 34:22], [Saba 34:23] These are four causes by which those who call upon other than Allah cling, and He has nullified all of them. The first cause is that they have something of the dominion of the heavens exclusively. Where did I take that from? [Saba 34:22] The second cause is that they have a share in the heavens, not exclusively, but they are partners with Allah in every atom of the universe. Do they have a share? It is negated by His saying: [Saba 34:22] Did Allah negate that? By His saying: [Saba 34:22] The fourth and final cause is intercession, that these idols have intercession, so He said: [Saba 34:23] And does Allah permit these idols to intercede? No, the evidence is: [Taha 20:109] And by this, the ties are cut for everyone who clings to other than Allah in bringing benefit or repelling harm, except by Allah alone, Glorified and Exalted is He. And Allah the Exalted said: [Al-Ahqaf 46:5] Is it clear, everyone? Good. What do you see?
The presenter : I see one in it.
The Shaykh : And.
The presenter : My dear, my dear, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : What did you want?
The presenter : Now, Papa, let him go.
The Shaykh : Yes. As for raising the index finger when mentioning Allah, this has been reported. In the sitting for the tashahhud, and in the sitting between the two prostrations, that a person points with his index finger, moving it, calling upon Allah the Mighty and Majestic with it. And it has also been reported in the Friday sermon when mentioning Allah the Mighty and Majestic, or when making supplication other than seeking rain, to point. As for what some of the common people do when the name of Allah the Exalted is mentioned in the imam's recitation, raising their finger in reverence for Allah, I do not know a basis for that.
The presenter : In the direction, not in the direction of Palestine.
The Shaykh : As for raising the hands in the supplication of qunut, al-Bayhaqi narrated it with a good or authentic chain from the Commander of the Faithful, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab. As for raising the hands when making supplication in the sermon. As for raising the hands in the supplication of qunut, al-Bayhaqi narrated it with a good or authentic chain from the Commander of the Faithful, 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
As for raising the hands when making supplication in the sermon, the Companions (may Allah be pleased with them) criticized Bishr ibn Marwan when he delivered a sermon and raised his hands in the supplication of the sermon. However, it is established from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that when the Bedouin entered while the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was delivering the sermon on Friday, he said: "O Messenger of Allah, the wealth has perished and the paths have been cut off, so call upon Allah to relieve us." So the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) raised his hands and said: "O Allah, relieve us. O Allah, relieve us." Anas ibn Malik, who is the narrator of the hadith,
By Allah, we did not see any cloud or any patch of it
والله ما نرى في السماء من سحاب ولا قزعة ماThe presenter : Thank you.
The Shaykh : There is a mountain near Madinah from whose side clouds appear. Anas said: So Allah sent forth a cloud from behind him like a shield. When it reached the middle of the sky, it spread out, thundered, flashed, and rained. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not descend from the pulpit until the rain was dripping from his beard. Allahu Akbar! Glory be to the One who
and He is over all things competent.
وَهُوَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌFrom the abundance of rain,
Please invoke Allah for us." So Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) raised both his hands and said, "O Allah! Around us and not on us."
فادع الله يمسكها عنا، فرفع النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يديه وقال اللهم حوالينا ولا عليناThe questioner : In the name of Allah.
The Shaykh : No. Allah Himself, because what was requested of him was to satisfy us with an increase. Yes, the Bedouin asked the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) to call upon Allah to hold it back, but the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did not call upon Allah for that. Rather, he called upon Allah for the rain to be around us and not upon us, because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is wise, so he called upon Allah the Exalted for what contains benefit without harm.
Another question in this hadith: Does it indicate that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)
He asks him to relieve him from
يطلب منه أن يغيث منThe presenter : This is considered, meaning returning.
The Shaykh : Who can answer this? Oh. Ha? He did not say: "O cloud, move to the right and left," but rather he said: "O Allah, around us and not upon us," and he pointed to the directions around us and not upon us. And the clouds part by the command of whom? By the command of Allah the Mighty and Majestic, whom his Messenger called upon to make the rain around them and not upon them. And by this it is known that there is no basis for one who calls upon the Messenger for aid to rescue him from hardships, neither by this hadith nor by any other. O our brothers, do not buy into it. You are below the Messenger. A fortiori. A fortiori. And Allah the Mighty and Majestic said:
Say, [O Muhammad], "Invoke those you claim [as deities] besides Allah." They do not possess an atom's weight [of ability] in the heavens or on the earth, and they do not have therein any partnership [with Him], nor is there for Him from among them any assistant.
قُلِ ادْعُوا الَّذِينَ زَعَمْتُم مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ لَا يَمْلِكُونَ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَمَا لَهُمْ فِيهِمَا مِن شِرْكٍ وَمَا لَهُ مِنْهُم مِّن ظَهِيرٍAnd intercession does not benefit with Him except for one whom He permits.
وَلَا تَنفَعُ الشَّفَاعَةُ عِندَهُ إِلَّا لِمَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُThey do not possess an atom's weight [of ability] in the heavens or on the earth
لَا يَمْلِكُونَ مِثْقَالَ ذَرَّةٍ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَلَا فِي الْأَرْضِand they do not have therein any partnership
وَمَا لَهُمْ فِيهِمَا مِن شِرْكٍnor is there for Him from among them any assistant.
وَمَا لَهُ مِنْهُم مِّن ظَهِيرٍAnd intercession does not benefit with Him except for one whom He permits.
وَلَا تَنفَعُ الشَّفَاعَةُ عِندَهُ إِلَّا لِمَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُThat Day, no intercession will benefit except [that of] one to whom the Most Merciful has given permission and has accepted his word.
يَوْمَئِذٍ لَّا تَنفَعُ الشَّفَاعَةُ إِلَّا مَنْ أَذِنَ لَهُ الرَّحْمَٰنُ وَرَضِيَ لَهُ قَوْلًاAnd who is more astray than he who invokes besides Allah those who will not respond to him until the Day of Resurrection, and they, of their invocation, are unaware.
وَمَنْ أَضَلُّ مِمَّن يَدْعُو مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ مَن لَّا يَسْتَجِيبُ لَهُ إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ وَهُمْ عَن دُعَائِهِمْ غَافِلُونَThe presenter : I see one in it.
The Shaykh : And.
The presenter : My dear, my dear, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : What did you want?
The presenter : Now, Papa, let him go.
The Shaykh : Yes. As for raising the index finger when mentioning Allah, this has been reported. In the sitting for the tashahhud, and in the sitting between the two prostrations, that a person points with his index finger, moving it, calling upon Allah the Mighty and Majestic with it. And it has also been reported in the Friday sermon when mentioning Allah the Mighty and Majestic, or when making supplication other than seeking rain, to point. As for what some of the common people do when the name of Allah the Exalted is mentioned in the imam's recitation, raising their finger in reverence for Allah, I do not know a basis for that.
The presenter : In the direction, not in the direction of Palestine.
Source
قناة «فضيلة الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين»، 12 - 17 - دروس وفتاوى المسجد الحرام للعام 1403 هـ - الدرس الثاني عشر - الشيخ محمد بن صالح العثيمين — youtube.com (31:18)
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