The ruling on zihar for one who is ignorant of its ruling

The questioner:
This questioner says: What is the ruling on a man who says to his wife, “You are to me like the back of my mother,” when he does not know the ruling and does not know the punishment for this matter because he is ignorant of it?

The Shaykh:
That is, if he says to his wife, “You are to me like the back of my mother,” the ruling is that it is zihar, meaning the expiation for zihar is required.

The questioner:
Monitoring.

The Shaykh:
Then . Two consecutive months. If he cannot do that, then feeding sixty poor people. It is not looked at whether he knows this phrase or not; it is not looked at in this way.

The questioner:
That he utters it.

The Shaykh:
This is the doubled [expiation].

The questioner:
Zihar has occurred, and the expiation for zihar is upon him.

The Shaykh:
He does not have intercourse with his wife until the expiation is performed beforehand.

The questioner:
That he forgets. Yes.

The presenter:
May Allah reward you,