The ruling on selling gold for gold via bank cards and electronic networks

Question:
That is, many questions have come from male and female viewers, asking Your Eminence about the ruling on selling gold for gold via bank cards and electronic networks. Does this fall under riba (usury or interest)?

Answer:
Yes, the exchange of possession must take place in the meeting place. Gold for gold and silver for silver require the exchange of possession in the meeting place, and they must not separate with anything between them. Yes.