Well, for example, my teacher, for example, I came across the narration of the hadith:

Al-Halabi : Well, for example, my teacher, for example, I came across the narration of the hadith: Ibn Kathir mentioned it in his tafsir and said: "The chain is on the condition of the two Shaykhs," via 'Abd al-Razzaq from Ma'mar, from Thabit, from Anas.

The Shaykh : Come forward to me, and may Allah guide you.
Al-Halabi : Via 'Abd al-Razzaq from Ma'mar, from Thabit, from Anas.

The Shaykh: All right.
Al-Halabi : AndThe Shaykh : They have both narrated from all the narrators, but al-Bukhari in his "Sahih" avoided narrating Ma'mar's report from Thabit, and it is on the condition of Muslim. Muslim narrated in his "Sahih" a chain exactly like this: 'Abd al-Razzaq from Ma'mar from Thabit from Anas. Can it be said that it is on the conditionThe Shaykh : of the two Shaykhs, or is it said: it is on the condition of Muslim?

The Shaykh : It is on the condition of Muslim, as we have just detailed.
Yes.
Al-Halabi : Without a doubt, but this is also, my teacher, a matter of differentiation, so that one must look at the books of 'ilal (defects) and so on.

The Shaykh : Without a doubt, but this is 'Abd al-Razzaq, from whom did he narrate? You need to note this!
Al-Halabi: Correct.

The Shaykh : From whom did he narrate?
Al-Halabi : Frankly, I do not remember right now.

The Shaykh : Here, the truth is that the issue of narrating from 'Abd al-Razzaq has a point that must be noted, and it was difficult in the past to be aware of it, which is that it should not be from the narration of Ishaq al-Dabari from him, do you see? While the author of the book that has been printed now revealed to us something that was hidden from us before. This thing is: that the entire book, for example, the Book of Prayer and the like, is from the narration of al-Dabari from 'Abd al-Razzaq, while other books are not from his narration, such as Ismail ibn Mansur, what is it?—I no longer remember its attribution—to the end of it. Therefore, when we wanted to extract a hadith, it became necessary for us to see if this hadith in this book is from the narration of al-Dabari or from the narration of someone else?
Al-Halabi : Oh my, so this point is considered to know the ruling of the hadith, especially since Abu Ishaq al-Dabari is known for miswriting and distortion.

The Shaykh : That is it, and he heard from him when he was a child of seven years old.
Al-Halabi : ... .

The Shaykh : So this point, the truth is, could not be verified previously, but now, due to the printing of the author, this distinction has appeared.

The questioner : And although, my teacher, something is now in my heart, which is reviewing the books of indexes and authentications, such as Fihrist al-Fuhurist and the program... I don't know what it is and so on, these are the ones who narrate the hadiths or books from their sheikhs to us. Perhaps these books, meaning the copy in our hands, al-Dabari, for example, narrated it, he narrated the Book of Prayer and the Book of Fasting, for example, I remember this completely, the Book of Fasting is from the path of al-Dabari, but perhaps others participated with him, such as the narration of Ibn Dasas and al-Lu'lu'i for "Sunan Abu Dawud" and so on. Is this possible, my teacher, or not?

The Shaykh : This is possible without a doubt, but what does it benefit us?
Al-Halabi : It benefits us by showing that someone else participated with al-Dabari.

The Shaykh : No, no, this is possible as a probability, it does not provide certainty.
Al-Halabi : I am saying, meaning, if we find, meaning, after research.

The Shaykh : Yes, if we find, for example, if we find a weak narrator who was followed by a trustworthy one.
Al-Halabi: Correct.

The Shaykh : This is clear, but perhaps someone narrated this book following al-Dabari, this "perhaps" needs to be proven.
Al-Halabi: Of course.

The Shaykh : That is it.
Al-Halabi : But my intention is that looking into this is good.

The Shaykh : Without a doubt, without a doubt.
Al-Halabi : May Allah bless you, my teacher.