Is it authentic from you, O Shaykh, that you say: the one who deliberately leaves off the sutrah, his prayer is invalid?
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The questioner : Is it authentic from you, O Shaykh, that you say: the one who deliberately leaves off the sutrah, his prayer is invalid?
The Shaykh : No, I say: he is sinful, and that is sufficient. What is your opinion?
The questioner : If he is a mujtahid and he made a mistake.
The Shaykh : How do you mean a mujtahid who made a mistake?
The questioner : I mean, or if he followed a scholar, if he did not know the obligation; does he become sinful?
The Shaykh : No, he does not become sinful.
The questioner : Fine; so if he knew the obligation?
The Shaykh : But what is the ruling for the one who ignored the obligation?
The questioner : The one who ignored the obligation is sinful, but if he was not convinced of the obligation?
The Shaykh : Why is he not convinced when the Messenger commands and invalidates the prayer; what prevents him from being convinced of the obligation?
The questioner : If he consulted a scholar and the scholar specifically told him...
The Shaykh : And can a scholar's fatwa be against the text of the Messenger?
The questioner : If a scholar... regarding the saying of the Messenger, and said: this does not necessitate obligation; meaning that this layperson or this person cannot distinguish whether the text of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) in this indicates obligation or otherwise, and he was convinced by the scholar's statement?
The Shaykh : Why did you descend to the layperson and leave the students of knowledge? And you left the scholars?
The questioner : Each according to his level, some of them are from...
The Shaykh : No, I say why did you descend and not ascend?
The questioner : Because the original state is that the general people are those who...
The Shaykh : No, that is not how issues are handled; we take the lowest level of people in understanding and manage the issue around them, and we leave the most knowledgeable people and those with the highest understanding, and we do not say why do these people not take these authentic hadiths in which there is no disagreement, and they take the hadith of the line; the least that can be said about it is that it is disputed, and in this severe confusion which alone is sufficient to say it is weak, and as I mentioned to you earlier, there is no hadith at all by which the Messenger (peace be upon him) acted upon this hadith of the line, so my intention, may Allah bless you, is this advice directed to all students of knowledge and not to you personally, why are examples struck by the virtue of acting upon the authentic hadith? Because if it is from the general people -- no, that is sufficient, may Allah bless you, may Allah reward you with good -- and he has no knowledge, he consulted, etc., the answer is as you heard.
The questioner : ... I do not doubt this, I... it comes to me.
The Shaykh : No problem, but, why do you not say about the scholars who?
The questioner : They need research.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : They need to research these issues.
The Shaykh : That is it.
The questioner : We all agree on this statement.
The Shaykh : Yes, your question is more: if he does not know, he does not become sinful, but if it is said to him, the Messenger of Allah said:, Mishkat al-Masabih 782, Bulugh al-Maram 2:98, all these hadiths are nullified because he does not know!! Because he consulted a scholar, and he said to him: there is no harm, the prayer is valid, and there is no sin on you, and the hadiths of the Messenger (peace be upon him). How good is the saying of Ibn al-Qayyim:
"Knowledge is: Allah said, His Messenger said, *** The Companions said, it is not deception.
What knowledge has placed you in the foolishness of disagreement *** Between the Messenger and the opinion of a jurist
Nor is it denying the attributes and negating them *** Out of fear of denial of the divine attributes and likening Allah to creation.”
We are now in a time where we claim that we are in an awakening, and I am with those who say so -- also --, but I do not go far with them, because this awakening after resembles the sleeper's awakening at first, it needs a very long time until it is true that they have truly awakened; as evidenced by the fact that we see those who belong to the Sunnah and to acting upon the hadith and do not have sectarian bias for the madhahib are in need of a lot of guidance to act upon the hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), and not to have sectarian bias for what their fathers or their shaykhs or the like are upon, therefore I said: why do we assume that this layperson does not know?
The questioner : He is taught.
The Shaykh : Huh? He is taught, and why are they not taught? Because sectarian bias is still deeply rooted in the hearts of these people, even many of those who belong to acting upon the Sunnah. And we ask Allah (Mighty and Majestic) to make us know the Sunnah, and to inspire us to act upon it; not only in creed, but in all the rulings of the Shari'ah; what of it are rulings, what of it are morals, what of it is behavior and etiquette, as for creed, it is the foundation and the basis by which a person descends to the soundness of creed from abiding in the Fire. Yes.
The questioner : What I know, O my Shaykh, is that... the rumor that says thatThe Shaykh : invalidates the prayer of the one who does not pray facing a sutrah.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good, I have heard.
The questioner : Whether he is a student of knowledge or a layperson, except if he becomes sinful if he knows... , this is all I want.
The Shaykh : It is so, may Allah reward you with good; let the witness inform the absent one.
The questioner : Shaykh, does the one praying behind the imam who knows that he does not place a sutrah become sinful?
The Shaykh : His sin is upon his faith, we said earlier:Riyad as-Salihin 1838.
The questioner : I heard that the one who does not place a sutrah.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : I heard that the one who does not place a sutrah.
The Shaykh : ...prayer...
The questioner : Does the one who goes to another become sinful?
The Shaykh : He does not commit a sin.
... ... ... .
The Shaykh : No, I say: he is sinful, and that is sufficient. What is your opinion?
The questioner : If he is a mujtahid and he made a mistake.
The Shaykh : How do you mean a mujtahid who made a mistake?
The questioner : I mean, or if he followed a scholar, if he did not know the obligation; does he become sinful?
The Shaykh : No, he does not become sinful.
The questioner : Fine; so if he knew the obligation?
The Shaykh : But what is the ruling for the one who ignored the obligation?
The questioner : The one who ignored the obligation is sinful, but if he was not convinced of the obligation?
The Shaykh : Why is he not convinced when the Messenger commands and invalidates the prayer; what prevents him from being convinced of the obligation?
The questioner : If he consulted a scholar and the scholar specifically told him...
The Shaykh : And can a scholar's fatwa be against the text of the Messenger?
The questioner : If a scholar... regarding the saying of the Messenger, and said: this does not necessitate obligation; meaning that this layperson or this person cannot distinguish whether the text of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) in this indicates obligation or otherwise, and he was convinced by the scholar's statement?
The Shaykh : Why did you descend to the layperson and leave the students of knowledge? And you left the scholars?
The questioner : Each according to his level, some of them are from...
The Shaykh : No, I say why did you descend and not ascend?
The questioner : Because the original state is that the general people are those who...
The Shaykh : No, that is not how issues are handled; we take the lowest level of people in understanding and manage the issue around them, and we leave the most knowledgeable people and those with the highest understanding, and we do not say why do these people not take these authentic hadiths in which there is no disagreement, and they take the hadith of the line; the least that can be said about it is that it is disputed, and in this severe confusion which alone is sufficient to say it is weak, and as I mentioned to you earlier, there is no hadith at all by which the Messenger (peace be upon him) acted upon this hadith of the line, so my intention, may Allah bless you, is this advice directed to all students of knowledge and not to you personally, why are examples struck by the virtue of acting upon the authentic hadith? Because if it is from the general people -- no, that is sufficient, may Allah bless you, may Allah reward you with good -- and he has no knowledge, he consulted, etc., the answer is as you heard.
The questioner : ... I do not doubt this, I... it comes to me.
The Shaykh : No problem, but, why do you not say about the scholars who?
The questioner : They need research.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : They need to research these issues.
The Shaykh : That is it.
The questioner : We all agree on this statement.
The Shaykh : Yes, your question is more: if he does not know, he does not become sinful, but if it is said to him, the Messenger of Allah said:
If one of you prays, let him pray facing a sutrah; so that Satan does not cut off his prayer.
إذا صلى أحدكم فليصلِّ إلى سترة ؛ لا يقطع الشطان عليه صلاتهWhen one of you prays facing a sutra * he should keep close to it and not let the devil interrupt his prayer.
إذا صلى أحدكم فليدْنُ من سترته ؛ لا يقطع الشيطان عليه صلاتهIn case there is not before him (an object) like the back of a saddle, a Muslim's Salat (prayer) would be cut off by (the passing of) a woman, a donkey and a black dog.
يقطع صلاة أحدكم إذا لم يكن بين يديه مثل مؤخرة الرحل : المرأة ، والحمار ، والكلب الأسود"Knowledge is: Allah said, His Messenger said, *** The Companions said, it is not deception.
What knowledge has placed you in the foolishness of disagreement *** Between the Messenger and the opinion of a jurist
Nor is it denying the attributes and negating them *** Out of fear of denial of the divine attributes and likening Allah to creation.”
We are now in a time where we claim that we are in an awakening, and I am with those who say so -- also --, but I do not go far with them, because this awakening after resembles the sleeper's awakening at first, it needs a very long time until it is true that they have truly awakened; as evidenced by the fact that we see those who belong to the Sunnah and to acting upon the hadith and do not have sectarian bias for the madhahib are in need of a lot of guidance to act upon the hadith of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), and not to have sectarian bias for what their fathers or their shaykhs or the like are upon, therefore I said: why do we assume that this layperson does not know?
The questioner : He is taught.
The Shaykh : Huh? He is taught, and why are they not taught? Because sectarian bias is still deeply rooted in the hearts of these people, even many of those who belong to acting upon the Sunnah. And we ask Allah (Mighty and Majestic) to make us know the Sunnah, and to inspire us to act upon it; not only in creed, but in all the rulings of the Shari'ah; what of it are rulings, what of it are morals, what of it is behavior and etiquette, as for creed, it is the foundation and the basis by which a person descends to the soundness of creed from abiding in the Fire. Yes.
The questioner : What I know, O my Shaykh, is that... the rumor that says thatThe Shaykh : invalidates the prayer of the one who does not pray facing a sutrah.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good, I have heard.
The questioner : Whether he is a student of knowledge or a layperson, except if he becomes sinful if he knows... , this is all I want.
The Shaykh : It is so, may Allah reward you with good; let the witness inform the absent one.
The questioner : Shaykh, does the one praying behind the imam who knows that he does not place a sutrah become sinful?
The Shaykh : His sin is upon his faith, we said earlier:
Your leaders will lead you in Salat (prayer). If they conduct it properly, you and they will be rewarded; but if they make mistakes you will earn the reward and they will be held responsible (for the mistakes).
يصلُّون بكم ؛ فإن أصابوا فلكم ولهم ، وإن أخطؤوا فلكم وعليهمThe questioner : I heard that the one who does not place a sutrah.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : I heard that the one who does not place a sutrah.
The Shaykh : ...prayer...
The questioner : Does the one who goes to another become sinful?
The Shaykh : He does not commit a sin.
... ... ... .
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