Is there a limit to the number of defects such that we can rule based on them that a hadith is not suitable for reinforcement?
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The questioner : May Allah keep you safe. A hadith is either defective with one defect or more. Is there a limit to the number of defects such that the hadith becomes unsuitable for reinforcement, or that
The Shaykh : the hadith
The questioner : is not suitable for reinforcement? It is possible that it rises to the level of hasan li-ghayrihi if another path supports this hadith
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : or that one defect and ten defects are the same
The Shaykh : Yes, as long as you posit ten defects and one defect, I say, hypothetically, they are the same. And if you posit the reality, it may happen that two defects coincide in the chain, such as weakness, for example, or disconnection, or weakness and marasil, and the like. The defect is a defect; it does not add to the statement that the chain is weak
The questioner : Well...
The Shaykh : We do not know that they say its chain is very weak
The questioner : because sometimes in some hadiths you reach about five defects
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : in some hadiths the defects reach about five, and perhaps more
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. This may exist, but the rare has no ruling. For example, al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar, when he spoke in his beneficial Sunnah, Sharh al-Nukhba, regarding the justification of the hadith scholars' rejection of using marasil hadiths as evidence, mentioned that in reality, many of the marasil were shown through induction and tracking to be taken by a Tabi'i from a Tabi'i from a Companion. Then he says, it is established that a Tabi'i took it from a Tabi'i from a Companion. Then in the fourth tracking, it is the Companion, and the fifth is the Companion. Yes, this exists, but it exists in a rare and very rare manner. In reality, it is sufficient that we sometimes find in a chain that contains marasil or disconnection that either one person or two persons have dropped from the chain. As you know, if the dropped person is singular, it is munqati', and if two are dropped consecutively, it is mu'dal. But the Hafiz who is attested to for the breadth of his memorization, may Allah reward you with good, can say what he said
But in our research and study, we do not mention anything other than the mu'dal hadith from which two or more from the chain have dropped. We do not mention that it has passed us that three, four, and five have dropped from the chain, as the Hafiz said. And the statement of the Hafiz, without doubt, is accepted by us, but it is rare, and the rare has no ruling.
The Shaykh : the hadith
The questioner : is not suitable for reinforcement? It is possible that it rises to the level of hasan li-ghayrihi if another path supports this hadith
The Shaykh : Yes
The questioner : or that one defect and ten defects are the same
The Shaykh : Yes, as long as you posit ten defects and one defect, I say, hypothetically, they are the same. And if you posit the reality, it may happen that two defects coincide in the chain, such as weakness, for example, or disconnection, or weakness and marasil, and the like. The defect is a defect; it does not add to the statement that the chain is weak
The questioner : Well...
The Shaykh : We do not know that they say its chain is very weak
The questioner : because sometimes in some hadiths you reach about five defects
The Shaykh : how
The questioner : in some hadiths the defects reach about five, and perhaps more
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. This may exist, but the rare has no ruling. For example, al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar, when he spoke in his beneficial Sunnah, Sharh al-Nukhba, regarding the justification of the hadith scholars' rejection of using marasil hadiths as evidence, mentioned that in reality, many of the marasil were shown through induction and tracking to be taken by a Tabi'i from a Tabi'i from a Companion. Then he says, it is established that a Tabi'i took it from a Tabi'i from a Companion. Then in the fourth tracking, it is the Companion, and the fifth is the Companion. Yes, this exists, but it exists in a rare and very rare manner. In reality, it is sufficient that we sometimes find in a chain that contains marasil or disconnection that either one person or two persons have dropped from the chain. As you know, if the dropped person is singular, it is munqati', and if two are dropped consecutively, it is mu'dal. But the Hafiz who is attested to for the breadth of his memorization, may Allah reward you with good, can say what he said
But in our research and study, we do not mention anything other than the mu'dal hadith from which two or more from the chain have dropped. We do not mention that it has passed us that three, four, and five have dropped from the chain, as the Hafiz said. And the statement of the Hafiz, without doubt, is accepted by us, but it is rare, and the rare has no ruling.