The Response to Those Who Cite a Hadith That Has No Basis
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The questioner : Our brother Abu 'Abd al-Rahman... the takbirs between every two...
The Shaykh : 'Ukashah got ahead of you, Professor. We were discussing this first issue with him. You caught up with it.
The questioner : The first issue: I did not catch it!
The Shaykh : He is now looking into the hadith of Abu Mazhura. When this topic was discussed with students of knowledge or others, they cited a hadith that has no basis, which is "The takbir is a jazm."
The questioner : Ibrahim al-Nakha'i.
The Shaykh : Ibrahim al-Nakha'i. Well done. Even if its attribution to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is not correct, it is only the statement of this Tabi'i, Ibrahim al-Nakha'i. And even if it were a hadith attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), it would not be valid to cite it as evidence that the Sunnah is to separate the first takbir from the one that follows it, "Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar." Because this phrase was interpreted using technical terminology. "The takbir is a jazm" means with a pause. This is a grammatical term. The Prophetic hadiths, as well as the reports of the Salaf, are not interpreted using scientific technical terms. This is a very important point. Often, neglecting this leads to changing a legal ruling. For example, using the word "disliked" to mean it is not forbidden, i.e., disliked in a recommended sense, whereas this usage is contrary to the Qur'anic usage, as is well known. The point is the report of Ibrahim al-Nakha'i, where he said: "The takbir is a jazm," meaning a quick cut, i.e., without elongation, as some ignorant mu'adhdhins do: "Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbaaar." Even the imams sometimes elongate it, even in the takbir of entering prayer: "Allahu Akbaaar." This is what Ibrahim al-Nakha'i warned against. He said, "The takbir is a jazm," meaning a quick cut, as came in the hadith of Abu Hurayrah in Sunan al-Tirmidhi ... I don't remember, there seems to be something in its chain...
Al-Halabi : Qura ibn Abd al-Rahman. Yes, Qura ibn Abd al-Rahman. The point is that the meaning refutes some of the imams who say: "As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatu Allaaah." This causes the follower to exit the prayer before him because of this stretching and elongation that has no basis. So the report of Ibrahim al-Nakha'i does not mean what some people do, "Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar," but rather connecting them is what is indicated by the hadith of 'Umar ibn al-Khattab in Sahih Muslim.
Shuqara: That is why I am asking, what is the established evidence for you regarding the separation of the takbirs... You mentioned, our Shaykh,The Shaykh : Abu Abd al-Rahman.
The questioner : You mentioned that some narrations state that the takbir is only four times, so he said,The Shaykh : If the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said to him, "Say Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar," then it is valid to derive the ruling from that. Otherwise, the narrations came regarding the doubling of the takbir.
onAl-Halabi : Our Shaykh, the hadith "When the mu'adhdhin says Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar." This is a clear indication that the repetition is with the doubling. Or if it were one by one, it would have said: When he says: Allahu Akbar, say: Allahu Akbar. When he says Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar.
The Shaykh : And this is the point of citation.
The questioner : The last matter: If Abu Abd al-Rahman permits, assuming its correctness, did he mean by jazm a quick cut, or is it correct that it means... Is it authentic from al-Nakha'i?
The Shaykh : By Allah, I do not know now. But it is the same for us whether it is authentic or not, this is the intended meaning. Do you remember its authenticity from him?
Ali Hasan: Allah knows best. It is authentic, our Shaykh. Another report does not establish its stopping at the Companion level without attribution to the Prophet.
The Shaykh : 'Ukashah got ahead of you, Professor. We were discussing this first issue with him. You caught up with it.
The questioner : The first issue: I did not catch it!
The Shaykh : He is now looking into the hadith of Abu Mazhura. When this topic was discussed with students of knowledge or others, they cited a hadith that has no basis, which is "The takbir is a jazm."
The questioner : Ibrahim al-Nakha'i.
The Shaykh : Ibrahim al-Nakha'i. Well done. Even if its attribution to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is not correct, it is only the statement of this Tabi'i, Ibrahim al-Nakha'i. And even if it were a hadith attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), it would not be valid to cite it as evidence that the Sunnah is to separate the first takbir from the one that follows it, "Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar." Because this phrase was interpreted using technical terminology. "The takbir is a jazm" means with a pause. This is a grammatical term. The Prophetic hadiths, as well as the reports of the Salaf, are not interpreted using scientific technical terms. This is a very important point. Often, neglecting this leads to changing a legal ruling. For example, using the word "disliked" to mean it is not forbidden, i.e., disliked in a recommended sense, whereas this usage is contrary to the Qur'anic usage, as is well known. The point is the report of Ibrahim al-Nakha'i, where he said: "The takbir is a jazm," meaning a quick cut, i.e., without elongation, as some ignorant mu'adhdhins do: "Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbaaar." Even the imams sometimes elongate it, even in the takbir of entering prayer: "Allahu Akbaaar." This is what Ibrahim al-Nakha'i warned against. He said, "The takbir is a jazm," meaning a quick cut, as came in the hadith of Abu Hurayrah in Sunan al-Tirmidhi
It is part of the Sunnah to shorten the closing salam
من السنة حذف السلامAl-Halabi : Qura ibn Abd al-Rahman. Yes, Qura ibn Abd al-Rahman. The point is that the meaning refutes some of the imams who say: "As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatu Allaaah." This causes the follower to exit the prayer before him because of this stretching and elongation that has no basis. So the report of Ibrahim al-Nakha'i does not mean what some people do, "Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar," but rather connecting them is what is indicated by the hadith of 'Umar ibn al-Khattab in Sahih Muslim.
Shuqara: That is why I am asking, what is the established evidence for you regarding the separation of the takbirs... You mentioned, our Shaykh,The Shaykh : Abu Abd al-Rahman.
The questioner : You mentioned that some narrations state that the takbir is only four times, so he said,The Shaykh : If the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said to him, "Say Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar," then it is valid to derive the ruling from that. Otherwise, the narrations came regarding the doubling of the takbir.
onAl-Halabi : Our Shaykh, the hadith "When the mu'adhdhin says Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar." This is a clear indication that the repetition is with the doubling. Or if it were one by one, it would have said: When he says: Allahu Akbar, say: Allahu Akbar. When he says Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar.
The Shaykh : And this is the point of citation.
The questioner : The last matter: If Abu Abd al-Rahman permits, assuming its correctness, did he mean by jazm a quick cut, or is it correct that it means... Is it authentic from al-Nakha'i?
The Shaykh : By Allah, I do not know now. But it is the same for us whether it is authentic or not, this is the intended meaning. Do you remember its authenticity from him?
Ali Hasan: Allah knows best. It is authentic, our Shaykh. Another report does not establish its stopping at the Companion level without attribution to the Prophet.
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