Clarifying the concept of "it was not transmitted from the Salaf," and the invalidity of acting upon what they did not do!
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The Shaykh : ... As I gave an example with some occasions, and this is perhaps very close to your question. If a group entered the mosque intending to pray the time sunnah or the greeting of the mosque, three, four, or five, the number doesn't matter, and each of them went to a corner... Then one of them said, and they claim he is the most knowledgeable among them: "Come, let us pray in congregation; it is better than praying individually. Because the Messenger of Allah said: Sunan an-Nasa'i 843Hasan (Darussalam), and in another hadith he said: Sunan an-Nasa'i 4020Sahih (Darussalam). How do we respond to the indication or argument of this...?"
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Well, do you have a text that the Salaf did not do this?
... ... ... .
The Shaykh: If this so-called jurist asked you.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: He did not forbid me from gathering for the pre- or post-obligatory sunnah, or any other sunnah? You answered that the Salaf did not do it, and I agree with you on that. But if he said to you: "Do you have a text for this?" What would you say?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: That answer is not sufficient!
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: My question—may Allah reward you—and the answer is clear, and it is one of two things, with no third: Do you have a text? The answer is yes or no. Then the next and final question will be posed to you, perhaps: Since you do not have a text, why do you disapprove of me?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: That is my turn—may Allah reward you—to search: Do you have a text that this was not part of the practice of the Salaf?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Glory be to Allah! This is a claim that you are making into evidence! This is a mistake, O Shaykh. You are supporting the claim itself, and I agree with you, but I want the evidence. What is the evidence that the Salaf did not perform this act that this so-called jurist performed?
The questioner: It was not transmitted from them.
The Shaykh: This... and you are a recipient...
The questioner: ... but it was not transmitted from them.
The Shaykh: So "it was not transmitted" is an argument, meaning that when we say... this thing was not transmitted, it is an argument.
The questioner: ... the act may have occurred or may not have occurred.
The Shaykh: Fine, it is so. Do we generalize this?
The questioner : How?
The Shaykh: Do we generalize it?
The questioner: Is this the benefit?
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner: It is generalized.
The questioner: Meaning we can say it is generalized.
The Shaykh: ... meaning like this and like this!
The questioner: Yes, if... the opportunity to do that thing existed and it was not done, that indicates that it...
Another questioner: I have something.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Another questioner: ... we know from Ibn al-Qayyim and some scholars... to know that the practice preceded it...
The Shaykh: And we transmitted this in the refutation of those who permit gold-plated hair for women; we transmitted it from Ibn al-Qayyim. But I said earlier that this is when the text does not allow for multiple meanings... as you said in your speech regarding your transmission from Ibn al-Qayyim. But when the text is ambiguous between two or more meanings, then we follow the inherited understanding of the scholars until we find someone who adopted the other opinion that appears to us to be correct. But as I said to the Shaykh earlier: We do not dare to assert it until we find a Salafi precedent that...
The questioner: Without blame; do we not say that the Salaf established rules for applying the texts, which is that a command implies obligation unless... a factor diverts it to recommendation? This rule was established by the Salaf.
Another questioner: ... there is a circumstance in the hadith that confirms the obligation.
The questioner: Yes—may Allah reward you; what is the circumstance?
Another questioner: It is. The opposition... to the People of the Book is originally obligatory, a fixed legal rule. So dyeing here is opposition to them; meaning it implies the command to dye, and the command to oppose them originally has been added to this, so this confirms it; there is confirmation in it.
The Shaykh: ... itself does not necessitate the obligation of opposition...
Another questioner: The general rule.
The Shaykh: That is the problem, like the command entirely; the original ruling for a command is obligation, but not always. And opposing the disbelievers—also—the original ruling is obligation, but not always. If these are combined with that...
Another questioner: ... if it is not for obligation, if it is not for obligation.
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A man's prayer with another man is greater in reward than his prayer alone
صلاة الرجل مع الرجل أزكى من صلاته وحده ، وصلاة الثلاثة أزكى من صلاة الرجلينthe Hand of Allah is with the Jama'ah
يد الله على الجماعةThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Well, do you have a text that the Salaf did not do this?
... ... ... .
The Shaykh: If this so-called jurist asked you.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: He did not forbid me from gathering for the pre- or post-obligatory sunnah, or any other sunnah? You answered that the Salaf did not do it, and I agree with you on that. But if he said to you: "Do you have a text for this?" What would you say?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: That answer is not sufficient!
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: My question—may Allah reward you—and the answer is clear, and it is one of two things, with no third: Do you have a text? The answer is yes or no. Then the next and final question will be posed to you, perhaps: Since you do not have a text, why do you disapprove of me?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: That is my turn—may Allah reward you—to search: Do you have a text that this was not part of the practice of the Salaf?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Glory be to Allah! This is a claim that you are making into evidence! This is a mistake, O Shaykh. You are supporting the claim itself, and I agree with you, but I want the evidence. What is the evidence that the Salaf did not perform this act that this so-called jurist performed?
The questioner: It was not transmitted from them.
The Shaykh: This... and you are a recipient...
The questioner: ... but it was not transmitted from them.
The Shaykh: So "it was not transmitted" is an argument, meaning that when we say... this thing was not transmitted, it is an argument.
The questioner: ... the act may have occurred or may not have occurred.
The Shaykh: Fine, it is so. Do we generalize this?
The questioner : How?
The Shaykh: Do we generalize it?
The questioner: Is this the benefit?
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner: It is generalized.
The questioner: Meaning we can say it is generalized.
The Shaykh: ... meaning like this and like this!
The questioner: Yes, if... the opportunity to do that thing existed and it was not done, that indicates that it...
Another questioner: I have something.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Another questioner: ... we know from Ibn al-Qayyim and some scholars... to know that the practice preceded it...
The Shaykh: And we transmitted this in the refutation of those who permit gold-plated hair for women; we transmitted it from Ibn al-Qayyim. But I said earlier that this is when the text does not allow for multiple meanings... as you said in your speech regarding your transmission from Ibn al-Qayyim. But when the text is ambiguous between two or more meanings, then we follow the inherited understanding of the scholars until we find someone who adopted the other opinion that appears to us to be correct. But as I said to the Shaykh earlier: We do not dare to assert it until we find a Salafi precedent that...
The questioner: Without blame; do we not say that the Salaf established rules for applying the texts, which is that a command implies obligation unless... a factor diverts it to recommendation? This rule was established by the Salaf.
Another questioner: ... there is a circumstance in the hadith that confirms the obligation.
The questioner: Yes—may Allah reward you; what is the circumstance?
Another questioner: It is
Oppose them; for they do not dye.
خالفوهم ؛ فإنهم لا يصبغونThe Shaykh: ... itself does not necessitate the obligation of opposition...
Another questioner: The general rule.
The Shaykh: That is the problem, like the command entirely; the original ruling for a command is obligation, but not always. And opposing the disbelievers—also—the original ruling is obligation, but not always. If these are combined with that...
Another questioner: ... if it is not for obligation, if it is not for obligation.
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