The chain of narration in which there is discussion, and all the men in the chain are trustworthy, so is it better to say about this man, even if he is a liar, that it should be said, that the negation is correct; is it better to say: this is a fabricated hadith, or to say: this chain contains so-and-so, and he is a liar?
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The questioner : The chain of narration in which there is discussion, and all the men in the chain are trustworthy, so is it better to say about this man, even if he is a liar, that it should be said, that the negation is correct; is it better to say: this is a fabricated hadith, or to say: this chain contains so-and-so, and he is a liar?
The Shaykh : It is the second option.
The questioner : All right; if we find something like this, the scholars of hadith, the scholars of terminology, they apply this term even if the chain is through Malik from Nafi' and from Ibn 'Umar, and then... Malik was a liar, they say: this hadith is fabricated.
The Shaykh : That is what is understood from it.
The questioner : In terminology, they count this as such, but in practice—Shaykh—in practice, yes, they may not do this, that is one matter, the other matter.
The Shaykh : All right; do you allow a comment?
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh : Let him finish his statement?
The questioner : No, I ask several questions so that someone can join in.
The Shaykh : The Hafiz mentioned.
The questioner : ... I would like the questions to be about hadith and its sciences.
The Shaykh: The Hafiz al-'Iraqi mentioned that if a hadith scholar finds a hadith with a weak chain, he should not say: this is a weak hadith, because there is a possibility that it has another chain that may be good in itself or authentic, and rather he should say: its chain is weak, then he said: except if he is a Hafiz who has comprehended the paths of the hadith, such that it is most likely in his opinion that there is nothing there that strengthens the hadith; in this case only, it is permissible to say: a weak hadith, and if that is the case—and it is certainly so, just as you are speaking—then it is even more so and more so if the hadith has a liar in its chain, as I said, and it has another path, as I said: Malik from Nafi' from Ibn 'Umar; then it is even more so and more so that it should not be said about this hadith that it is a fabricated hadith, but rather it should be said: this is a fabricated hadith with this chain, but if he knows that it is authentic by virtue of the chain mentioned earlier; then it is not permissible because there is... clear, God forbid that a man of knowledge would fall into that, and I know—and praise be to Allah—that some hadith scholars may say about some hadiths in a chain, they say: this is invalid, and they specify it with this chain, and in that is an indication that it is not so in another chain.
And this is my opinion on this matter.
The Shaykh : It is the second option.
The questioner : All right; if we find something like this, the scholars of hadith, the scholars of terminology, they apply this term even if the chain is through Malik from Nafi' and from Ibn 'Umar, and then... Malik was a liar, they say: this hadith is fabricated.
The Shaykh : That is what is understood from it.
The questioner : In terminology, they count this as such, but in practice—Shaykh—in practice, yes, they may not do this, that is one matter, the other matter.
The Shaykh : All right; do you allow a comment?
The questioner: Go ahead.
The Shaykh : Let him finish his statement?
The questioner : No, I ask several questions so that someone can join in.
The Shaykh : The Hafiz mentioned.
The questioner : ... I would like the questions to be about hadith and its sciences.
The Shaykh: The Hafiz al-'Iraqi mentioned that if a hadith scholar finds a hadith with a weak chain, he should not say: this is a weak hadith, because there is a possibility that it has another chain that may be good in itself or authentic, and rather he should say: its chain is weak, then he said: except if he is a Hafiz who has comprehended the paths of the hadith, such that it is most likely in his opinion that there is nothing there that strengthens the hadith; in this case only, it is permissible to say: a weak hadith, and if that is the case—and it is certainly so, just as you are speaking—then it is even more so and more so if the hadith has a liar in its chain, as I said, and it has another path, as I said: Malik from Nafi' from Ibn 'Umar; then it is even more so and more so that it should not be said about this hadith that it is a fabricated hadith, but rather it should be said: this is a fabricated hadith with this chain, but if he knows that it is authentic by virtue of the chain mentioned earlier; then it is not permissible because there is... clear, God forbid that a man of knowledge would fall into that, and I know—and praise be to Allah—that some hadith scholars may say about some hadiths in a chain, they say: this is invalid, and they specify it with this chain, and in that is an indication that it is not so in another chain.
And this is my opinion on this matter.
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