Discussion regarding the error in the Hanafis' phrase
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The student: But excuse me, the Hanafis, I mean, it is not for the Hanafis, it is for the debate, meaning it must be that.
Another student: They call it the science of debate.
The student: The science of debate requires that in the end, meaning there is prevention, criticism, and opposition in the final stage when one of the parties is cornered, one of their arguments must be stronger than the other's. Therefore, if they are equal, according to their logic, they must both be rejected. But if we do not adopt the methodology of debate, and this is the best.
The Shaykh: But there is a note here, Professor. There is a note that it is possible to use "they contradicted each other, so both were rejected" between us humans. But when two authentic hadiths come to us from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), and we apply the three stages and do not reach a result, it is not proper for us to say that the two hadiths of the Messenger in the two Sahihs contradicted each other, so both were rejected. Here, there is bad conduct toward the words of the Messenger.
The student: This is what led you to adopt this better opinion, but the opinion regarding the Hanafis.
Another student: This is not for the Hanafis alone, it is rational evidence.
The Shaykh: I want to draw your attention.
The student: No, your opinion is the best.
The Shaykh: No, I do not want just this. I want to say that the Hanafis use this when they dispute with their opponents in the madhhab. Not in the debate, but in the evidence. They say "they contradicted each other, so both were rejected." This is not proper. What al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar said is about the conduct toward the hadith of the Messenger (peace be upon him).
The student: In this field, this is correct.
Another student: They call it the science of debate.
The student: The science of debate requires that in the end, meaning there is prevention, criticism, and opposition in the final stage when one of the parties is cornered, one of their arguments must be stronger than the other's. Therefore, if they are equal, according to their logic, they must both be rejected. But if we do not adopt the methodology of debate, and this is the best.
The Shaykh: But there is a note here, Professor. There is a note that it is possible to use "they contradicted each other, so both were rejected" between us humans. But when two authentic hadiths come to us from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), and we apply the three stages and do not reach a result, it is not proper for us to say that the two hadiths of the Messenger in the two Sahihs contradicted each other, so both were rejected. Here, there is bad conduct toward the words of the Messenger.
The student: This is what led you to adopt this better opinion, but the opinion regarding the Hanafis.
Another student: This is not for the Hanafis alone, it is rational evidence.
The Shaykh: I want to draw your attention.
The student: No, your opinion is the best.
The Shaykh: No, I do not want just this. I want to say that the Hanafis use this when they dispute with their opponents in the madhhab. Not in the debate, but in the evidence. They say "they contradicted each other, so both were rejected." This is not proper. What al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar said is about the conduct toward the hadith of the Messenger (peace be upon him).
The student: In this field, this is correct.
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