Have you read the book of Shaykh Shuqara, "It is Salafiyyah," which contains a denial of jihad? (Discussion)

The questioner : ... Shaykh, I mean, your words prompt me to ask: Have you read the book of our Shaykh Abu Malik, "It is Salafiyyah," which has a chapter on jihad?

The Shaykh : No, I have not read it, but I have read his acknowledgment of jihad.

The questioner : And you have not read his denial of jihad?

The Shaykh : His denial of jihad.

The questioner : I am saying it now, I mean, O our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : All right, allow me, allow me.

The questioner : We...

The Shaykh : Do you, I mean, represent the brother Abd al-Rahman?
The student : No, Shaykh, no.

The Shaykh : That is enough.
The student : I do not represent Shaykh Abd al-Rahman in this.

The Shaykh : That is enough, no problem, no problem. No, no, we do not accept, we do not accept this discussion. We want to discuss with the man who attributed to our brother Abu Malik the denial of jihad.
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : And if you adopt his view, and Zayd and Bakr and 'Amr, then this is a calamity of the age.
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : And therefore, I do not want to discuss this issue. If you wish to discuss, the man is present and you can reach an understanding with him. First, I am not in a position to read everything that is written. I do not say this regarding the general authors, no, nor regarding our brothers the authors in general. I do not have the time to be able to read this and that. And without a doubt, I know for certain that they are, as Imam al-Shafi'i said, "Allah refused to complete anything other than His Book." So I imagine that what Abu Malik and Ali...Al-Halabi : and Salim al-Hilali, and so on, of our brothers who are with us on the line, I will take up some of their illusions and errors, as they also take up that regarding me, because none of us is a man who is protected from error. But my intention is to say that I am not free, first, to read everything that is currently published by our brothers, let alone others from the Muslims. This is first. And second, if I come across something that contradicts, I am not free to clarify that so-and-so erred and so-and-so erred, and so on. But whoever is keen on that must either meet, as we said earlier, regarding those who criticize our brother Abu Islam for some matters, if they are able to meet him, they must meet him and not delve into his character, or write to him if they are not able to meet him. Now, may Allah bless you, you are raising and asking: Have you read the book? My answer is: I have not read it, but we have read a word regarding this accusation that he denied jihad. My brother, the matter is serious. May Allah bless you. I advise you now: Is the one who denies jihad a Muslim?
The student : No, he is not.

The Shaykh : Then Abu Malik would be a disbeliever.
The student : Of course not, Shaykh, I mean...

The Shaykh : The matter is very obvious.
The student : There is no doubt.

The Shaykh : Therefore, as for you, the matter is very serious for you. As long as you think that Abu Malik denies the known jihad in the Book and the Sunnah, you must meet him. And I say it frankly: I said that you are delayed until Monday, so your time is tight before you meet me. What you might benefit from meeting me is less obligatory for you than meeting the brother accused of denying what is known of the religion by necessity, which if denied, one exits Islam just as a hair exits dough. This is more obligatory for you.
The student : Yes, may Allah reward you with good, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The student : We, I mean, if Allah wills, will visit Shaykh Abu Malik, and he was in our program, I mean, this one.

The Shaykh : Very good.
The student : Today, if Allah wills.

The Shaykh : Very good.
The student : As for the denial of jihad, we do not say that Shaykh Abu Malik, I mean, denies the obligation of jihad. Rather, he dropped jihad by the sword. Now he said, and he said in text, my Shaykh said, "There is no jihad except with the presence of a general Imam, whom those who approve approve and those who disapprove disapprove." I am not now, as you have honored me, in the position of discussing the sayings of Shaykh Abu Malik. So this, if Allah wills, we will postpone until our meeting with him.

The Shaykh : If Allah wills.
The student : But I wanted, I mean, to make sure that you have read the chapter, and I hope you will read it in full, because, I mean, we praise Allah—Blessed and Exalted is He—and I still remember in the introduction of a booklet for you, which is "The Hadith is a Proof in Itself in Beliefs and Rulings," and it appeared that it was a lecture to a group of university youth, in perhaps one of the European cities, if I am not...

The Shaykh : In Spain, yes.
The student : Yes, and you said that day, encouraging the youth to the concept of following and the necessity that we not be imitators as long as we are able to do so. And I personally say as a matter of course that I am not among the students of knowledge who have taken up Islamic jurisprudence. I studied electrical engineering, but in commitment to this foundation and this methodology that you have explained, and which the honorable Shaykh Abd al-Rahman Abd al-Khaliq has also explained repeatedly and repeatedly.

The Shaykh: Yes.