A discussion on the issue of shaking hands during the tawaf of the Ka'bah, and whether one should start with the person on his right by facing him, or how he should proceed.
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The Shaykh: And it doesn't mean, think well, where do you start? Go ahead, start from where you are. Yes?
The questioner: From the right of the one pouring water.
The Shaykh: The Shaykh did not turn back from the opinion.
The questioner: He says to me: This is one of the established matters, and I do not know how you discuss it.
Another questioner: This is a self-evident matter, our Shaykh has a belief, meaning this.
The Shaykh: This is the Black Stone, and this is the line where he wants to face the Black Stone as is the Sunnah, and here is a person and here is a person, as far as I understood, do you start with this one or with that one?
The questioner: He starts with this one.
The Shaykh: And what do we say?
The questioner: And we say: Start with this one.
The Shaykh: So why did we start and he started?
The questioner: Because he is on his right.
The Shaykh: So where is the disagreement?
The questioner: The disagreement is in the issue of the greeting; he has it that when he comes, he reverses it, he measures it.
The Shaykh: He measures it, he now took the right.
The questioner: Yes, and we do so too.
The Shaykh: And we do so too.
The questioner: He says: When we come, we greet, we do not apply this Sunnah.
The Shaykh: We greet what?
The questioner: When we come to shake hands, when we perform the handshake, do we contradict the method of tawaf around the Ka'bah?
The Shaykh : How do you mean?
The questioner: He said the following.
The Shaykh: Be patient, my brother, ha ha, now I am going to start shaking hands, where?
The questioner: He, our Shaykh, if he...
The Shaykh: Leave me alone, we differed from here, now we have three people here.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Who do we start with in the handshake?
The questioner: With this first one.
The Shaykh: Okay, and he?
The questioner: He starts with this one.
The Shaykh: Okay, so.
The questioner: But he says: When you transfer the image from outside the tawaf to our gatherings in the handshake.
The Shaykh: For you, my brother, ha ha ha, he entered from here and here there is a man and here there is a man.
The questioner: He starts from here, he says: We start from here, he says.
The Shaykh : It is not correct.
The questioner: But let me clarify it to you, our Shaykh, now you entered the gathering.
Another questioner: Stay by yourself.
The Shaykh: So that 'Isam is believed.
The questioner: Our Shaykh, it is...
Another questioner: I will make it easy for you.
The Shaykh: For you, the door is there, put your back there, put your back there.
The questioner: I am sitting, may you be well!
Another questioner: We entered now, now I want to shake hands, of course, when I want to shake hands, I start shaking hands from our right, I start like this, Shaykh Ahmad says: No, now when you come, I have now greeted our brother Shaykh Ali, where is my right? This is the right, he says I must start like this, with the issue of the stone, the stone, I remain like this, I tawaf, he said: You do not walk on the left.
The Shaykh: My brother, this is the image.
The questioner: In the image...
The Shaykh: A repeated image, this one.
The questioner: It is very clear, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: But he now has a strong problem for us in my opinion.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh: Come in, my brother, the first man there, the first man there.
The questioner: This is the first man.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: I greeted him.
The Shaykh: Why are you turning your face that way, come in as you entered from the door, where is your right?
The questioner: Here.
The Shaykh: Okay, this ladder, a man you shook hands with, did you start with your left?
The questioner: No, with my right.
The Shaykh: Okay, how is he attributing to us that we start with our left?!
The questioner: Yes, because he does it like this because he turns around.
The Shaykh: Haha, okay, why are you turning around, why are you turning around with him? Haha.
The questioner: May Allah guide you.
Another questioner: I tell you: I faced the stone, you walk like this, you must walk like this.
The Shaykh: But now, when he faced the stone, did he not turn around?
The questioner: He turned around, yes.
The Shaykh: He turned around.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Yes, the simple turn is necessary, the important thing is that he walks to the right, so you now started with a person there, so he imagines that, yes? He entered like this, it became, it became his left, it remained, okay, why the circle and the turn, why does he not leave it natural and innate.
The questioner: A thing came to my mind now, let us suppose, and the comparison, the stone, the Ka'bah, excuse me, now I came here, now I want to tawaf, I tawaf like this, right? And I want to greet like this.
The Shaykh: I am telling him.
The questioner: This is strong.
The Shaykh: The turn is necessary.
The questioner: Did you notice, Shaykh, this is the stone and these people around the stone or the Ka'bah, meaning, I greeted like this and I greeted like this and I greeted like this, now my walking to the right and my greeting to the right agree with the thing I am walking with, what is he now going to do, he wants to greet like this!!
Another questioner : Yes, exactly.
The questioner: Okay, now this stone, our Shaykh, this is the Ka'bah, he wants to greet, it is exactly the opposite, it must become. Another questioner: Our Shaykh, it is related, if we were two entering the entrance of the house, I want to give priority to my right in entering, this is from the Sunnah, so how, our Shaykh, who enters first, the one on the right who is next to me.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: And that one, our Shaykh, will be the one greeting because he is the one entering on the right.
The Shaykh: Now, this is the image in which you are greeting.
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh: The man, you say his face is like this, or you say his face is like this, what do you say? Suppose it became?
The questioner: Let us suppose we.
The Shaykh: Is his face like this or like this?
The questioner: We suppose, what is it like.
The Shaykh: I am telling you: Either like this or like this, how is it like this?
The questioner: Meaning his face is toward there, yes, toward there.
The Shaykh: I am asking you a question, I am not deciding.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Or I will widen the question for your sake, this is the one who walked the line and faced the Black Stone and kissed it and turned to the right, he saw a person he shook hands with, and the second and the third, here his face remained, here now the east, you know, right?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Here is the east, okay, will his face be toward the east, or will his face be toward the north, or will his face be toward the west, where will his face be, in your opinion?
The questioner: After he turns to the stone, it will be toward the north.
The Shaykh: Okay, and we are like this, you entered from the door, you saw the first man on your right, you shook hands with him, why did you reverse the issue like this?! Keep your face like this, now we are here, in front of us is the south, right? Okay, so you shook hands with the first man, it is not necessary that the first man you face with your face, you enter to shake hands with him, you walk two, three, to the end, likewise, now here, when you entered or took the right after you kissed the stone, you found a man here, you shook hands with him, is it necessary that your face be toward his face?! Why is he imposing it like this, and then there became a second person on his right, he must reverse, he goes back, I do not know why this assumption, if the image is what he imagines.
The questioner: Truly.
The Shaykh: He imagines it? Okay.
The questioner: From the right of the one pouring water.
The Shaykh: The Shaykh did not turn back from the opinion.
The questioner: He says to me: This is one of the established matters, and I do not know how you discuss it.
Another questioner: This is a self-evident matter, our Shaykh has a belief, meaning this.
The Shaykh: This is the Black Stone, and this is the line where he wants to face the Black Stone as is the Sunnah, and here is a person and here is a person, as far as I understood, do you start with this one or with that one?
The questioner: He starts with this one.
The Shaykh: And what do we say?
The questioner: And we say: Start with this one.
The Shaykh: So why did we start and he started?
The questioner: Because he is on his right.
The Shaykh: So where is the disagreement?
The questioner: The disagreement is in the issue of the greeting; he has it that when he comes, he reverses it, he measures it.
The Shaykh: He measures it, he now took the right.
The questioner: Yes, and we do so too.
The Shaykh: And we do so too.
The questioner: He says: When we come, we greet, we do not apply this Sunnah.
The Shaykh: We greet what?
The questioner: When we come to shake hands, when we perform the handshake, do we contradict the method of tawaf around the Ka'bah?
The Shaykh : How do you mean?
The questioner: He said the following.
The Shaykh: Be patient, my brother, ha ha, now I am going to start shaking hands, where?
The questioner: He, our Shaykh, if he...
The Shaykh: Leave me alone, we differed from here, now we have three people here.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Who do we start with in the handshake?
The questioner: With this first one.
The Shaykh: Okay, and he?
The questioner: He starts with this one.
The Shaykh: Okay, so.
The questioner: But he says: When you transfer the image from outside the tawaf to our gatherings in the handshake.
The Shaykh: For you, my brother, ha ha ha, he entered from here and here there is a man and here there is a man.
The questioner: He starts from here, he says: We start from here, he says.
The Shaykh : It is not correct.
The questioner: But let me clarify it to you, our Shaykh, now you entered the gathering.
Another questioner: Stay by yourself.
The Shaykh: So that 'Isam is believed.
The questioner: Our Shaykh, it is...
Another questioner: I will make it easy for you.
The Shaykh: For you, the door is there, put your back there, put your back there.
The questioner: I am sitting, may you be well!
Another questioner: We entered now, now I want to shake hands, of course, when I want to shake hands, I start shaking hands from our right, I start like this, Shaykh Ahmad says: No, now when you come, I have now greeted our brother Shaykh Ali, where is my right? This is the right, he says I must start like this, with the issue of the stone, the stone, I remain like this, I tawaf, he said: You do not walk on the left.
The Shaykh: My brother, this is the image.
The questioner: In the image...
The Shaykh: A repeated image, this one.
The questioner: It is very clear, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: But he now has a strong problem for us in my opinion.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh: Come in, my brother, the first man there, the first man there.
The questioner: This is the first man.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: I greeted him.
The Shaykh: Why are you turning your face that way, come in as you entered from the door, where is your right?
The questioner: Here.
The Shaykh: Okay, this ladder, a man you shook hands with, did you start with your left?
The questioner: No, with my right.
The Shaykh: Okay, how is he attributing to us that we start with our left?!
The questioner: Yes, because he does it like this because he turns around.
The Shaykh: Haha, okay, why are you turning around, why are you turning around with him? Haha.
The questioner: May Allah guide you.
Another questioner: I tell you: I faced the stone, you walk like this, you must walk like this.
The Shaykh: But now, when he faced the stone, did he not turn around?
The questioner: He turned around, yes.
The Shaykh: He turned around.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Yes, the simple turn is necessary, the important thing is that he walks to the right, so you now started with a person there, so he imagines that, yes? He entered like this, it became, it became his left, it remained, okay, why the circle and the turn, why does he not leave it natural and innate.
The questioner: A thing came to my mind now, let us suppose, and the comparison, the stone, the Ka'bah, excuse me, now I came here, now I want to tawaf, I tawaf like this, right? And I want to greet like this.
The Shaykh: I am telling him.
The questioner: This is strong.
The Shaykh: The turn is necessary.
The questioner: Did you notice, Shaykh, this is the stone and these people around the stone or the Ka'bah, meaning, I greeted like this and I greeted like this and I greeted like this, now my walking to the right and my greeting to the right agree with the thing I am walking with, what is he now going to do, he wants to greet like this!!
Another questioner : Yes, exactly.
The questioner: Okay, now this stone, our Shaykh, this is the Ka'bah, he wants to greet, it is exactly the opposite, it must become. Another questioner: Our Shaykh, it is related, if we were two entering the entrance of the house, I want to give priority to my right in entering, this is from the Sunnah, so how, our Shaykh, who enters first, the one on the right who is next to me.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: And that one, our Shaykh, will be the one greeting because he is the one entering on the right.
The Shaykh: Now, this is the image in which you are greeting.
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh: The man, you say his face is like this, or you say his face is like this, what do you say? Suppose it became?
The questioner: Let us suppose we.
The Shaykh: Is his face like this or like this?
The questioner: We suppose, what is it like.
The Shaykh: I am telling you: Either like this or like this, how is it like this?
The questioner: Meaning his face is toward there, yes, toward there.
The Shaykh: I am asking you a question, I am not deciding.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Or I will widen the question for your sake, this is the one who walked the line and faced the Black Stone and kissed it and turned to the right, he saw a person he shook hands with, and the second and the third, here his face remained, here now the east, you know, right?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Here is the east, okay, will his face be toward the east, or will his face be toward the north, or will his face be toward the west, where will his face be, in your opinion?
The questioner: After he turns to the stone, it will be toward the north.
The Shaykh: Okay, and we are like this, you entered from the door, you saw the first man on your right, you shook hands with him, why did you reverse the issue like this?! Keep your face like this, now we are here, in front of us is the south, right? Okay, so you shook hands with the first man, it is not necessary that the first man you face with your face, you enter to shake hands with him, you walk two, three, to the end, likewise, now here, when you entered or took the right after you kissed the stone, you found a man here, you shook hands with him, is it necessary that your face be toward his face?! Why is he imposing it like this, and then there became a second person on his right, he must reverse, he goes back, I do not know why this assumption, if the image is what he imagines.
The questioner: Truly.
The Shaykh: He imagines it? Okay.
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