A discussion regarding some issues related to the Salafis and the reality of the da'wah.
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The student : ... Of course, it was... May Allah will it, that... on Friday it was... .
Another student: ... The truth is, regarding the book al-Sunan al-Kubra by al-Bayhaqi, that this is a verification of the bid'ah (religious innovation) because he says in the book that it did not clarify that some matters or errors in 'aqidah (creed), so it was taken that this action... is an affirmation.
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student: However, no one is safe from his evil.
Another student: ... the message, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student: That is, it descends upon the scholars; Ibn Baz says Ibn Baz does not have knowledge, yes, that is right.
Another student: Even our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : ... .
The student : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student: A discussion took place between him and Shaykh 'Adnan in front of me in Riyadh. So, when Shaykh 'Adnan would speak, the young brother would say, "So-and-so says such and such," but that man would not say, "This man says this about Shaykh 'Adnan" while he was beside him. He would say, "This speaker and this man claims such and such." His manner was not even one that should be emulated, for he is a student of knowledge.
Another student: I even remember a phrase from his tape... he says, "The Muslims have corrupted the Muslims in two years what the Jews and Christians did not corrupt in twenty years"... .
The Shaykh: ... because of the people... .
The student: ... here... but they were in a state of enmity between them, so they settled for their enmity... .
Another student: The visit of Fariq here, meaning they thought that Shaykh Nasser supported this idea, the idea of declaring people innovators and so on... they think this.
The student: They think that they... because the Shaykh went and hosted them.
Another student: It was when we finished the prayer; I did not know the man, they told me... they say, "This is him..." then I turned to him and greeted him.
The student: But you heard his speech, you did.
Another student: I was not listening to his speech; I had not heard his speech before.
The student: The fitnah (trial) that occurred... I did not hear about it.
Another student: I did not hear about it, the important thing... upon him, because he said, "We want to travel, it will not work, my brother, the people here are in the desert, you have brothers here and so on..." meaning, you honored us by accepting our invitation, then may Allah make it easy for you. And with me was a brother named Ra'id Za'atar, do you know the brother Ra'id?
The student: ... he was with them.
Another student: He was present, meaning, he was visiting his relatives, he was present... upon him.
The student: Shall I bring you a plate, or what?
The Shaykh: Bring a plate.
The student: So three brothers entered with him, I think.
Another student: It is Shaykh 'Abd al-'Aziz who told me; a person told Shaykh 'Abd al-'Aziz that when he heard his tape, he was cursing this one and insulting this one and declaring this one an innovator, he said, "I seek refuge in Allah, no Muslim is safe from his evil..." Shaykh 'Adnan told me... be quiet, Shaykh, or... .
The Shaykh : Who?
The student: Shaykh 'Adnan, or he informed me about him.
The Shaykh: I do not remember now.
The student: ... he is present, he is speaking, may Allah guide him... he is speaking harsh words on the phone, and words, meaning, we did not like to hear them, because it is his opinion about him, meaning, unfortunately, meaning, words... .
Another student: On the contrary, Shaykh 'Adnan is the most careful one can be.
The student: Harsh language.
Another student: Meaning, even on the phone, if we call him, we do not say "Shaykh al-Albani," we say "the Shaykh" or "Abu 'Abd al-Rahman," or "Are you going to the Shaykh?" but we do not say, "I am going to al-Albani."
The student: He spoke, my brother, and I remained silent... .
Another student: ... his fitnah... Riyadh or where.
The student: The Kingdom generally is very great, so it reached Kuwait... even to the point that.
Another student: I heard one of the Shaykhs cursing Fariq on the minbar, cursing him on Friday. Shaykh Muhammad al-Faraj was absent, so a Shaykh attended whose name I did not know, but he cursed him and cursed his fitnah. Currently, a great confusion has occurred among the scholars, and he has activity; you see, it is not easy.
The student: And Shaykh 'Adnan was accused in a tape that he was the one who came and told Shaykh Nasser not to meet him, inciting Shaykh Nasser... .
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student: He, my Shaykh, does not know about this... .
Another student: Did Shaykh 'Ali fly with him, saying, "He just came to you..." .
The student: ... pleasant words... as mentioned.
Another student: Meaning, I remember, the meeting was simple, words, meaning, on general topics, yes, then.
The student: It was a short visit.
Another student: It could not exceed about three or four hours, even he asked us to speak... so I recorded it, but it seems he did not broadcast it, he did not like it.
The student: Did you pray for the deceased... .
Another student: Yes, of course.
The student: You are an innovator in his view.
Another student: Yes, his anger at Shaykh 'Adnan was that once in a session he cited... against the Muslim Brotherhood... so he said, "I seek refuge in Allah, that one is..." .
The student : This...
Another student: Yes, in front of us.
The student: And he considers Sayyid Qutb the head of the Jahmiyyah, and does not pray for him, and is repelled by his books. In fact, he, my Shaykh, would warm themselves by burning al-Bukhari and the commentary of al-Bukhari and the commentary of Muslim, because Ibn Hajar al-'Asqalani is an innovator in their view, and al-Nawawi is an innovator.
The Shaykh : I seek refuge in Allah.
The student: So they would collect these copies and burn them, and draw near to Allah by burning Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.
Another student: Poor things, but... .
The student: Their books of the Sufis are with them... .
Another student: Even I remember, my Shaykh... the awakening now has distinguished between the truthful and the liar, he is explaining, meaning, that it began, so he said... in a loud voice suddenly that... Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)... .
The Shaykh : ... .
Another student: ... The truth is, regarding the book al-Sunan al-Kubra by al-Bayhaqi, that this is a verification of the bid'ah (religious innovation) because he says in the book that it did not clarify that some matters or errors in 'aqidah (creed), so it was taken that this action... is an affirmation.
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student: However, no one is safe from his evil.
Another student: ... the message, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student: That is, it descends upon the scholars; Ibn Baz says Ibn Baz does not have knowledge, yes, that is right.
Another student: Even our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : ... .
The student : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student: A discussion took place between him and Shaykh 'Adnan in front of me in Riyadh. So, when Shaykh 'Adnan would speak, the young brother would say, "So-and-so says such and such," but that man would not say, "This man says this about Shaykh 'Adnan" while he was beside him. He would say, "This speaker and this man claims such and such." His manner was not even one that should be emulated, for he is a student of knowledge.
Another student: I even remember a phrase from his tape... he says, "The Muslims have corrupted the Muslims in two years what the Jews and Christians did not corrupt in twenty years"... .
The Shaykh: ... because of the people... .
The student: ... here... but they were in a state of enmity between them, so they settled for their enmity... .
Another student: The visit of Fariq here, meaning they thought that Shaykh Nasser supported this idea, the idea of declaring people innovators and so on... they think this.
The student: They think that they... because the Shaykh went and hosted them.
Another student: It was when we finished the prayer; I did not know the man, they told me... they say, "This is him..." then I turned to him and greeted him.
The student: But you heard his speech, you did.
Another student: I was not listening to his speech; I had not heard his speech before.
The student: The fitnah (trial) that occurred... I did not hear about it.
Another student: I did not hear about it, the important thing... upon him, because he said, "We want to travel, it will not work, my brother, the people here are in the desert, you have brothers here and so on..." meaning, you honored us by accepting our invitation, then may Allah make it easy for you. And with me was a brother named Ra'id Za'atar, do you know the brother Ra'id?
The student: ... he was with them.
Another student: He was present, meaning, he was visiting his relatives, he was present... upon him.
The student: Shall I bring you a plate, or what?
The Shaykh: Bring a plate.
The student: So three brothers entered with him, I think.
Another student: It is Shaykh 'Abd al-'Aziz who told me; a person told Shaykh 'Abd al-'Aziz that when he heard his tape, he was cursing this one and insulting this one and declaring this one an innovator, he said, "I seek refuge in Allah, no Muslim is safe from his evil..." Shaykh 'Adnan told me... be quiet, Shaykh, or... .
The Shaykh : Who?
The student: Shaykh 'Adnan, or he informed me about him.
The Shaykh: I do not remember now.
The student: ... he is present, he is speaking, may Allah guide him... he is speaking harsh words on the phone, and words, meaning, we did not like to hear them, because it is his opinion about him, meaning, unfortunately, meaning, words... .
Another student: On the contrary, Shaykh 'Adnan is the most careful one can be.
The student: Harsh language.
Another student: Meaning, even on the phone, if we call him, we do not say "Shaykh al-Albani," we say "the Shaykh" or "Abu 'Abd al-Rahman," or "Are you going to the Shaykh?" but we do not say, "I am going to al-Albani."
The student: He spoke, my brother, and I remained silent... .
Another student: ... his fitnah... Riyadh or where.
The student: The Kingdom generally is very great, so it reached Kuwait... even to the point that.
Another student: I heard one of the Shaykhs cursing Fariq on the minbar, cursing him on Friday. Shaykh Muhammad al-Faraj was absent, so a Shaykh attended whose name I did not know, but he cursed him and cursed his fitnah. Currently, a great confusion has occurred among the scholars, and he has activity; you see, it is not easy.
The student: And Shaykh 'Adnan was accused in a tape that he was the one who came and told Shaykh Nasser not to meet him, inciting Shaykh Nasser... .
The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student: He, my Shaykh, does not know about this... .
Another student: Did Shaykh 'Ali fly with him, saying, "He just came to you..." .
The student: ... pleasant words... as mentioned.
Another student: Meaning, I remember, the meeting was simple, words, meaning, on general topics, yes, then.
The student: It was a short visit.
Another student: It could not exceed about three or four hours, even he asked us to speak... so I recorded it, but it seems he did not broadcast it, he did not like it.
The student: Did you pray for the deceased... .
Another student: Yes, of course.
The student: You are an innovator in his view.
Another student: Yes, his anger at Shaykh 'Adnan was that once in a session he cited... against the Muslim Brotherhood... so he said, "I seek refuge in Allah, that one is..." .
The student : This...
Another student: Yes, in front of us.
The student: And he considers Sayyid Qutb the head of the Jahmiyyah, and does not pray for him, and is repelled by his books. In fact, he, my Shaykh, would warm themselves by burning al-Bukhari and the commentary of al-Bukhari and the commentary of Muslim, because Ibn Hajar al-'Asqalani is an innovator in their view, and al-Nawawi is an innovator.
The Shaykh : I seek refuge in Allah.
The student: So they would collect these copies and burn them, and draw near to Allah by burning Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.
Another student: Poor things, but... .
The student: Their books of the Sufis are with them... .
Another student: Even I remember, my Shaykh... the awakening now has distinguished between the truthful and the liar, he is explaining, meaning, that it began, so he said... in a loud voice suddenly that... Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)... .
The Shaykh : ... .
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