Discussion regarding the narrator described as truthful but prone to error.
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The Shaykh : Now, we should return to what you said, which you have forgotten.
The questioner : The narrator who is described as truthful but prone to error.
The Shaykh : Ah, so make it easy for us. When we find a narrator like this, the Hafiz who used this term for a narrator might not say that his hadith is hasan. We should not say that the isnad of the hadith of the one described as truthful but poor in memory, or similar, is hasan, unless he says the isnad is hasan, not that the hadith is hasan.
The questioner : His hadith, meaning his hadith through its supporting chains and corroborating narrations.
The Shaykh : Yes, and I said earlier that his hadith is likely to be hasan. Why? It is likely to be hasan in itself or hasan due to other evidence, because this varies among scholars. Even with the Hafiz himself, you will find that sometimes he strengthens a hadith based on this description, and sometimes he weakens it, while others differ. So, for example, regarding myself, it is permissible for me to say about one of these narrators that the isnad of a certain hadith is weak, but to say about another hadith that it is hasan, meaning hasan due to other evidence. It could also be the opposite. I always adopt the rule that his hadith is hasan in itself, because when I studied his biography in detail in al-Tahdhib, I was convinced that the principle regarding his hadith is that its isnad is hasan, unless his error becomes apparent, like this.
The questioner : Here, my Shaykh, as an example, a hadith of my Shaykh, a hadith of... the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): "When the prayer was established and he saw people praying two rak'ahs hastily, he said:, and he forbade praying in the mosque when the prayer has been established." Ibn Khuzaymah narrated it. My Shaykh, what do you say regarding the takhrij? I said: ... from the menThe Shaykh : of the book, but the Hafiz said: "Truthful but prone to error." So this narrator, I do not know if this is from you or from you. Do you say its isnad is sahih, or is it from al-Azami?
The Shaykh : No, clarify.
The questioner : After the dot, he is bringing a separate statement.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is his statement.
The questioner : No, I do not think you say that.
The Shaykh : I do not say that.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Because he says its isnad is sahih, considering that the man is one of the men of the two Shaykhs.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And he does not recall this criticism.
The questioner : Yes, so you are saying his hadith is sahih.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : The narrator who is described as truthful but prone to error.
The Shaykh : Ah, so make it easy for us. When we find a narrator like this, the Hafiz who used this term for a narrator might not say that his hadith is hasan. We should not say that the isnad of the hadith of the one described as truthful but poor in memory, or similar, is hasan, unless he says the isnad is hasan, not that the hadith is hasan.
The questioner : His hadith, meaning his hadith through its supporting chains and corroborating narrations.
The Shaykh : Yes, and I said earlier that his hadith is likely to be hasan. Why? It is likely to be hasan in itself or hasan due to other evidence, because this varies among scholars. Even with the Hafiz himself, you will find that sometimes he strengthens a hadith based on this description, and sometimes he weakens it, while others differ. So, for example, regarding myself, it is permissible for me to say about one of these narrators that the isnad of a certain hadith is weak, but to say about another hadith that it is hasan, meaning hasan due to other evidence. It could also be the opposite. I always adopt the rule that his hadith is hasan in itself, because when I studied his biography in detail in al-Tahdhib, I was convinced that the principle regarding his hadith is that its isnad is hasan, unless his error becomes apparent, like this.
The questioner : Here, my Shaykh, as an example, a hadith of my Shaykh, a hadith of... the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): "When the prayer was established and he saw people praying two rak'ahs hastily, he said:
Are you praying two prayers together?
أصلاتان معًا ؟The Shaykh : No, clarify.
The questioner : After the dot, he is bringing a separate statement.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is his statement.
The questioner : No, I do not think you say that.
The Shaykh : I do not say that.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Because he says its isnad is sahih, considering that the man is one of the men of the two Shaykhs.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And he does not recall this criticism.
The questioner : Yes, so you are saying his hadith is sahih.
The Shaykh: Yes.
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