A man heard a tape of Al-Albani and then said, "I heard the Shaykh say so and so." Is this considered tadlis?

Abu Ishaq: A man heardThe Shaykh : Nasir al-Din al-Albani from a cassette tape.

The Shaykh: What did he do?
Abu Ishaq: A man heardThe Shaykh : Nasir al-Din al-Albani.

The Shaykh: He heard.
Abu Ishaq: He heard it from a cassette tape and then said, "I heardThe Shaykh : Al-Albani. Is that considered tadlis?

The Shaykh: Of course, what is tadlis?
The students laughed.
Abu Ishaq: But he did hear it.

The Shaykh: Yes, yes. We say, your question is not whether it is permissible for him to say "I heard," but rather whether that is considered tadlis, is it not?
Abu Ishaq: Yes, indeed, indeed.
Abu Ishaq and the students laughed.

The Shaykh: There is a difference between the two matters, and on that basis, it is tadlis. Why? Because it is not hidden that tadlis in the science of hadith terminology is misleading people about something that was not the case. It is either misleading them into thinking that this person is actually his Shaykh and that he heard from him directly, and that this is among the narrations he heard from him; or it is misleading them into thinking that he heard from him when he did not hear from him at all. Therefore, the one who narrates from someone he never met at all is a mudallis (one who commits tadlis), and the one who narrates from someone he met but did not hear from is a mudallis. So tadlis means misleading people about things that he does not intend, while people understand from him that he does intend them. So if the one who says, and he has heard the words of the allegedThe Shaykh : Al-Albani.
— laughsThe Shaykh : and Abu Ishaq al-Huwayni, may Allah have mercy on them,
is speaking in a recording, "I heard Al-Albani say so and so," what comes to the minds of the listeners is that he heard it via the recording, just as it does not come to mind in the narration of a hadith from a mudallis from so-and-so that he narrated from him via a medium. Therefore, he is called a mudallis. So this is a mudallis in the present age—

The Shaykh : Al-Albani andThe Shaykh : Abu Ishaq and the students are laughing.
Al-Halabi: But our teacher, we are cultured; what we call a mudallis, we call a mudallis.
With the laughter of the students.

The Shaykh: He says, "All roads lead to the mill; he lies, he commits tadlis, so he is a mudallis."
Abu Ishaq: And as for the permissibility, the permissibility of saying, "I heard it with my own ears," to confirm it, is that permissible?

The Shaykh : The answer has already been given.
Abu Ishaq: No, there is, well, yes, he is a mudallis, but...

The Shaykh: The answer was given earlier when I told you that you are not asking whether it is permissible for him to say "he heard," but rather whether it is considered tadlis.
Abu Ishaq: And I changed the question.
Al-Halabi: A new question.
Abu Ishaq: A new question: Is it permissible for him to say, regarding a specific issue, "I heard"?

The Shaykh: And he heard it from the tape.
Abu Ishaq: Yes.

The Shaykh: Well, the same answer.
Abu Ishaq: If so, it is not permissible.

The Shaykh: The same answer, because what do the listeners understand from it?
Abu Ishaq: That he heard it.

The Shaykh: No.
Abu Ishaq: That he saw it in reality.

The Shaykh: That he heard it from him directly.
Abu Ishaq: Directly.

The Shaykh: No, if he heard it, he heard it.
Al-Albani laughed.
Abu Ishaq: So he says, "A tape narrated to me from...?"

The Shaykh: I heard from the tape.
Abu Ishaq: I heard from the tape.

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.

The questioner: What if it were by telephone?

The questioner: What if he narrated by telephone?

The Shaykh: By telephone.
Laughter.The Shaykh

The Shaykh: And he says, this requires a pause, and by Allah, it seems the matter requires mentioning the reality, meaning by telephone, so he says, "I heard it from him by telephone," yes.